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Things I've heard Paul Barber blamed for this week
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Barber out.
Was the question difficult, you called the steward, a fat steward. My point about your job was. Would you be able to call someone that in your job and get away with it?.As for the stewards, from what I have read over the last few weeks. Is that some people have received bans from the club for racist behaviour. However this was only possible because fans( not stewards) reported the incidents. Who is to say that fans have not complained via the text service about fans and the stewards have taken action. Unless you were there from the start and heard every word that was said, how can you make a comment about how well or not someone is doing there job. If you want fair treatment from the stewards, I would think its not best to call them fat, even if they are
Sergei's Celebration
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Can we call tall people tall, or short people short? Can i call a woman a woman? Can i be called a man? Can i say someone is athletically built?
Some statements are just true. No matter how PC you want to be.
The screamer
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Just finished a puzzle and NO bits were missing... Barber OUT
pastafarian
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i have uncovered evidence Barber is the Grand Imperial Wizard of this mob
The pie thieving Westboro Baptist Church
The pie thieving Westboro Baptist Church
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Yes it was quite difficult, because it was poorly worded and didn't make sense.
And no, I doubt I would be able to call someone fat in my job and get away with it. But what's your point? The stewards aren't doing that, and NSC isn't my job, even though it feels like it sometimes. I don't understand the point you are making. There are plenty of things I can't do in my job that I can do when I'm not at work.
Why do you not call some by the colour of their skin or their disability. I think you know what will happen if he was black and you referred to him by the colour of his skin. Why do people feel the need to refer to people about the things that stick out. My daughter wears glasses, so does she have to except people calling her four eyes, just because she wears glasses.
Maybe you should think about applying for a steward . The point is that in your comments about the steward you refer to him as fat. By that attitude it shows you have little respect and therefore why should you be able to expect respect from the stewards. If in your job that you think you might be able to get away with calling someone fat says more about you and your attitude towards people. Can I ask if he was black and fat would you put the 2 words in a sentence together and shout it out the next match and see where that gets you. Maybe the people evicted made comments about his weight when he spoke to them, and that's why they were removed.
nwgull
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Utter bollocks. It is perfectly acceptable to describe someone by their skin colour. No worse than describing someone by their hair colour or height.
And if you're fat and don't like it then eat less and move more. It really is very simple.
Dr. Notthenineo'clocknews
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During the course of my working day i'll often need to point out a customer to a colleague and if I don't know their name i'll use terms such as 'the black lad', 'the gent in the wheelchair or 'that **** with the palace shirt on" without any fear of comeback. I tend to use 'big' rather than 'fat' although when I'm watching Thomas with the boy, we DO call him The Fat Controller rather than the Morbidly Obese Controller
Surely it depends if its refered to in a descriptive way or a derogatory way on the colour front? Don't get me wrong, racism in football and any scenario is wholly and completely unacceptable and I am utterly against it, but if you are describing someone's physical appearance and doing it in a purely descriptive and non-offensive manner it shouldn't be a problem?
The revelation that the reason the concourses are always out of pies is down to one fat steward, is quite something. I cannot believe Barber has not addressed this massive problem. Come on Barber sort it out, we cant have this one steward eating all our pies. Barber out.
Cadiz Seagull
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Cadiz Seagull
Grey bearded old man
That's the important point which seems get lost lots of times.
Describing someone as black of fat or whatever is not, in itself, wrong, it depends - or should depend - totally on context.
If I describe Lua Lua as a black George Best is that racist? Of course not. If anything it's a compliment, depending on your view of George Best.
If someone described me as being like a white Pelé I'd be very pleased, if a little suprised.
But if I describe Lua Lua as a black waste of space or worse then it is wrong. Or at least unacceptable to most people.
It doesn't actually make any sense, because the player being described may or may not be a waste of space or worse, but he is black. But I understand why most people would find this unacceptable - including me.
Postman Pat
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The fact this thread has gone off on a complete tangent....... that is Barber's fault.
nwgull
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Are we talking about Paul Barber who played Denzil in Only Fools and Horses? You know; the black man.
