GloryDays
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As posted in another thread Isq’s goal against West Ham was our first goal from a corner since 17 December 2016.
That’s right. We didn’t score a (league) goal from a corner for the whole of 2017.
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As posted in another thread Isq’s goal against West Ham was our first goal from a corner since 17 December 2016.
That’s right. We didn’t score a (league) goal from a corner for the whole of 2017.
darkwolf666
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Which basically proves people are getting too hung up on the scoring from corner stats. Even the best teams in that table have such a small percentage of their overall goals it really should be less of a worthy - conceding from corners, now that's another matter.
Machiavelli
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Well, I'm pretty sure they're counting it as one, because we wouldn't be credited with one otherwise.
But if we follow your logic, then actually our defending from corners isn't as bad as many claim, as there have been some goals conceded that haven't resulted directly from a corner. Huddersfield's second for one, but I suspect there are others too.
Izquierdo's goal was our first scored from a corner since 2016, Murray vs Birmingham. Let's hope the next one transpires to be as important.
Dorset Seagull
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Interesting point, I think the defending from corners is linked to the inability to score from corners. The defending from corners and set pieces cannot be practiced in training due to the inability of our attackers to score from them.
I think it changed when we started watching the ball and not the players a month or so ago, Which also co-incided with Schelletto rather than Bruno, who loves grappling with his man rather than heading the ball. Whether the two are connected, or it was a managerial change, I don't know. But we've certainly looked more comfortable at corners and seemed to have cleared them away quicker than we were.
OzMike
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Have Stoke got the tallest players in the league then ?
FatSuperman
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Well, Crouch is about 25 feet tall, so tbh they're bound to have the best stats for goals from corners.
I'd like to see a breakdown of how long after a corner a goal was scored. I think we all know that corners do not yield very many goals at all, the best conversion rate being 6.5%. However, they add quite a lot of pressure and often spawn further attempts on goal aside from the initial delivery. Those stats might be quite specific in what they have categorised as a goal from a corner.
Cowfold Seagull
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Well well well, and they say that stats don't lie. I always thought Sean Dyche's boys were the kings of converting chances from set pieces.
lancyclaret
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But we (Burnley) had Michael Keane who was a genuine threat whenever we had a corner.
His replacement (Tarkowski) is hopeless from corners - tries too much for power rather than accuracy and usually balloons good chances too high. He has missed at least three good, point-blank goal chances from corners this season. His CH partner (Ben Mee) tries to be too accurate but has been a bit unlucky this season, being denied by a good save or a goal-line clearance (eg twice at Liverpool) plus another couple of near misses.
Considering we are 7th (just about!), it is quite bit embarrassing that we have not scored from a corner in 27 matches. Also, along with Swansea, we are the only PL team not to be awarded a penalty this season! West Ham at home and Huddersfield away, we were denied stonewall penalties in two drawn matches.
It makes me wonder how many points more (now 36) we might have with just 5 extra goals (3 from corners and 2 from penalties). Maybe just a couple of points behind 6th-placed Arsenal.
Dyche - a stats freak - must be concerned why West Ham have scored 7 from 112 corners and Burnley, who struggle to score from open play, have a big fat zero from the same number of corners. Stoke - with three corners less - have also scored 7.
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lancyclaret
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With no chance of a penalty or a goal from a corner, we have to rely on world-class free-kicks for set-piece goals...eg Steven Defour's free-kick to put us 2-0 up at Old Trafford on Boxing Day after Ashley Barnes had put us ahead from a Gudmonsson free-kick. Let in a stoppage-time equaliser...damn.
Last season, West Brom got an amazing amount of goals from corners - well into double figures with Craig Dawson leading the way with about half a dozen, helped by Gareth MacAuley and Johnny Evans.
Dyche commented on WBA's success and wanted Burnley to follow the Baggies' example from set-pieces but his coaching seems to have had no success whatsoever.
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Man United have only conceded one goal from open play at Old Trafford this season. WhoScored stats.
Murray a scored a goal from a corner at Birmingham?
Whoops that was 2016!
The 33-year-old forward met Knockaert's pinpoint corner to head beyond Tomasz Kuszczak for his 14th goal of the season and help the second-placed Seagulls open an eight-point gap on Reading in third.
To have been so bad at defending and scoring from corners for several years now really does raise massive and uncomfortable questions about the quality of coaching at the club. I'm sorry, but it does.
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Hooray, knew we would look good at the top of the table. Interesting that despite all their flair players Man City and Chelsea are still good at old fashioned defending from corners, Spurs and Liverpool less so!
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and they'd have even fewer if they didn't count the goals from corners they've all scored against us
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And Shane Duffy had nodded in from a corner at Blackburn the week before.
sussex_guy2k2
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Apologies. I misconstrued the number. We’ve scored 3 set piece goals according to their data. So there’s another in there’s somewhere. Murray, Izquierdo and Hemed all have one from a set piece (not including penalties).
In fact, the corner goal is the WHU one recently at their place.