there was no moon landing .... discus

[pastafarian]

I'll break it down for you then

Ten Step Method To Staging a Terrorist Attack
1) Hire a Crisis Management firm to set up an exercise that parallels the terrorist attack you are going to carry out. Have them run the exercise at the precise locations and at the very same time as the attack. If at any stage of the attack your Arabs get caught, tell the police it was part of an exercise.

2) Hire four Arabs and tell them they're taking part in an important exercise to help defend London from terrorist attacks. Strap them with rucksacks filled with deadly explosives. Tell the Arabs the rucksacks are dummy explosives and wouldn't harm a fly.

3) Tell four Arabs to meet up at London Underground and disperse, each getting on a different train. Make sure Arabs meet in a location where you can get a good mug shot of them all on CCTV which you can later endlessly repeat to drooling masses on television.

4) While four Arabs are in London, plant explosives in their houses in Leeds. Plant some explosives in one of their cars in Luton for the police to later discover. Remember that Qu'ran and flight manual in the hijackers' car? Ha ha, they fell for that one hook, line and sinker. No need to change tactics on this one.

5) Before the bombings take place, make sure you warn any of your buddies who are scheduled to be anywhere near where the bombs go off. If this gets leaked to the press, just deny it.

6) 4th Arab goes out partying in London night before and ends up getting out of bed late. No worries, the 9/11 'hijackers' did the same thing but that didn't cause us a big problem. 4th Arab catches bus to see if other Arabs are waiting for him. 4th Arab starts hearing about explosions in the London Underground. 4th Arab comes to the realization that this he is being set up and freaks out. 4th Arab starts fiddling in his rucksack. 4th Arab sets bomb off and is blown up.

If you hired any additional Arabs and they also got wind of the set up, make sure tere are GPS locators in the rucksacks so you can have police snipers ready to kill them before they can blow the whistle.

7) After the bombs go off, put out a story for over an hour that the explosions are a simple electrical fault. This gives you cover time to make sure the lazy bus Arab is dead and any other hired Arabs who reneged are also dead. Make sure any CCTV footage that doesn't support your official story is either seized or destroyed.

8) A few hours after the bombings, have one of your boys post an 'Al-Qaeda statement' claiming responsibility. Don't worry about the whole 'misreferencing the Qu'ran' thing, these idiots don't have the attention spans to figure it out.

9) After you have made sure that all the Arabs are dead and you are managing the story accordingly, wait for four days until the police piece together the story and find the explosives you planted in Leeds and in the car in Luton. Remember that Qu'ran and flight manual in the hijackers' car? Ha ha, they fell for that one hook, line and sinker. No need to change tactics this time either. The time delay will convince the gullible public that a real investigation is taking place. Create a background of the hired Arabs being militant Muslims. The drooling masses, as was the case with the '9/11 hijackers,' will ignore stories of neighbours saying they were the quiet, educated types who liked children and playing sports.
BBC excerpt: One local resident described him as "a nice lad".
"He liked to play football, he liked to play cricket. I'm shocked."
Another resident said he was just a "normal kid" who played basketball and kicked a ball around.

10) Sit back and enjoy as Blair and his minions grandstand in front of television cameras about staying the course in the war on terror. The pay raise, extra agency funding, and power to strip more freedoms and liberties made the ten easy steps to staging a terrorist attack a worthwhile venture. The dozens of dead people were necessary collateral damage. This is a dirty war, we need to be less moral than the terrorists to defeat them.
And that's how the government staged the bombings in ten easy steps.
Granted, you can interchange different pieces of the puzzle. The bombers could be real terrorists that knew exactly what they were doing. All you would need to do is control the 'mastermind' behind the attack and make sure his boys carried out the job in the way you wanted. Voila.

Not only do you have an unhealthy racist obsession against Arabs you are also incredibly f***ing stupid on this subject. 3 of the bombers were of British/Pakistani decent and 1 Jamaican decent.....where do you get off being a racist and labeling them all Arabs?...we know you like to lie but this is a new low even for you falmer

 

[Rosa]

Not only do you have an unhealthy racist obsession against Arabs you are also incredibly f***ing stupid on this subject. 3 of the bombers were of British/Pakistani decent and 1 Jamaican decent.....where do you get off being a racist and labeling them all Arabs?...we know you like to lie but this is a new low even for you falmer

Clutching at straws there i'm afraid. The race card wont work on this one because I'm suggesting it was a government attack not an islamist one.
Piss off pasta brain and nit pick someone else, you're boring and petty.

 

[tezz79]

What more could a man want? I would like to think a man in a difficult period of his life would want to prevent this for others. Not just sit back in a football ground for 90 minutes a fortnight with his family and think this is everything in life. Research alternative treatments, save your child and then many others after. Is that not what you should want? Don't give up.

I don't give up he's 12 & we are constantly with specialist trying to control the things that might be controllable & don't I deserve to get out & watch a bit of footy every now & then ? What do you think respite care is for ?
Of coarse I'd want him & others not to go through this but my post was f***ing tongue in cheek.... I shouldn't even have to explain myself to you.
I have not once given up on him & a lot of it is genetic.... There is no treatment for he's cerebral palsy

 

[Triggaaar]

Rosa, you obviously care about the lives that are needlessly lost around the world every year. Can't you appeal to your caring side to show a bit more caring here?

 

[pastafarian]

there are plenty of alternative treatments away from the NHS.

falmer says taking marijuana helps his paranoia,depression and mental illness..........is this the sort of alternative treatment you advocate

 

[pastafarian]

Clutching at straws there i'm afraid. The race card wont work on this one because I'm suggesting it was a government attack not an islamist one.
Piss off pasta brain and nit pick someone else, you're boring and petty.

so why the anti Arab slant?

 

[tezz79]

Rosa, you obviously care about the lives that are needlessly lost around the world every year. Can't you appeal to your caring side to show a bit more caring here?

Cheers mate, I don't need anybody to care as they don't know me or my son but it was the way he said he couldn't care less & that I somehow am doing my son a disservice by getting out once in a while when me and my wife work very hard to give him the best life possible.

Just kind of belittled what we've been through as a family & was a bit of a kick in bollocks

 

[Rosa]

I've got hope he's comfy and happy but there is no treatment for the middle part of your brain (corpus colosum) not forming from birth.
He's got severe epilepsy which we try to control (sometimes this works) & has tetrology of fallows (a congenital heart disease) which he has had 3 lots of open heart surgery for during which he caught cdif & perforated his bowel.... He now wears a colostomy.
He is wheelchair bound and registered blind and needs 24 hour care, now I think I'm entitled to be happy he pulled through all of this & hopefully you can understand why I got a bit pissed off when you suggested I should get off NSC & find a cure.

Look I'm aware what has happened to your son must be very hard to deal with. I totally understand why you'd of been pissed off. I didn't mean it directly at your son. i was just trying to put into context societies social issues and a lack of empathy for the masses. Your son is part of the masses so I do wish and pray for his health and luck and really i do care. You never know, I just hope some luck will come your sons way at some stage soon. As i said before miracles do happen if all else fails. Remember there is a God and he is extremely helpful when needed. I'll pray for your son. I'm not into any certain religion, I just know there is a God who performs miracles. Look at the Albion right now, now that's a bloody miracle. Peace and love. I hope you all get through your hard challenge.

 

[Rosa]

falmer says taking marijuana helps his paranoia,depression and mental illness..........is this the sort of alternative treatment you advocate

MMJ

Pasta brain, you'll never win with me.

 

[tezz79]

Look I'm aware what has happened to your son must be very hard to deal with. I totally understand why you'd of been pissed off. I didn't mean it directly at your son. i was just trying to put into context societies social issues and a lack of empathy for the masses. Your son is part of the masses so I do wish and pray for his health and luck and really i do care. You never know, I just hope some luck will come your sons way at some stage soon. As i said before miracles do happen if all else fails. Remember there is a God and he is extremely helpful when needed. I'll pray for your son. I'm not into any certain religion, I just know there is a God who performs miracles. Look at the Albion right now, now that's a bloody miracle. Peace and love. I hope you all get through your hard challenge.

Cheers..... We'll leave it there

 

[pastafarian]

Just kind of belittled what we've been through as a family & was a bit of a kick in bollocks

its a trait the conspiracy lunatics have no problem in continuing,they care not of the victims or the relatives of victims from 9/11.they dont think or care for one minute how insulting or hurtful their theories are.........all that is important is me me me me me me! it only goes to say they will not care about you and your son and how hurtful comments can be......sad pricks is the least i can say on here.

good luck with your kid

 

[Rosa]

so why the anti Arab slant?

Do you even know what an arab is? Northern african and western asian people can all be referred as Arabs, it's like calling the french european. It's a politically correct term which you're trying to deem as racist, and we wonder why we have racial issues.
What next can you pull from my posts which makes me prejudice?

 

[pastafarian]

MMJ

Pasta brain, you'll never win with me.

thats odd........falmer came up with that come back on another thread.............both of you think very similar.........you should get together

 

[tezz79]

its a trait the conspiracy lunatics have no problem in continuing,they care not of the victims or the relatives of victims from 9/11.they dont think or care for one minute how insulting or hurtful their theories are.........all that is important is me me me me me me! it only goes to say they will not care about you and your son and how hurtful comments can be......sad pricks is the least i can say on here.

good luck with your kid

Cheers buddy much appreciated.
Only brought it up to explain why i was happy to be with my family (I did not mention it until my happiness was questioned) but as I said I think it's best if me & rosa leave it there.

Thanks for the kind words pasta

 

[Rosa]

thats odd........falmer came up with that come back on another thread.............both of you think very similar.........you should get together

great response Pasta brain. I've proven to you that cannabis is being used to cure cancer which you were previously slating. Once proven wrong your now playing the 'You are Falmer' card. Desperation to hold an argument. Pasta brain why don't you report me to the mods or make a thread about me being falmer instead of trying to debate with someone who is far more intelligent than you, Your a complete drone head who highlights the word Arab 17 bloody times without even knowing it's definition whilst trying to make out i was being racist!!
Seriously, keep to your football debates. I feel sorry for you 17 times over (sad case lol)

 

[pastafarian]

Do you even know what an arab is? Northern african and western asian people can all be referred as Arabs, it's like calling the french european. It's a politically correct term which you're trying to deem as racist, and we wonder why we have racial issues.
What next can you pull from my posts which makes me prejudice?

so arab applies to the gentleman of Jamaican decent as well does it?

i have your number rosa, [MENTION=19187]tezz79[/MENTION] has a lot more dignity and compassion than i do for letting you off for what you said,personally i would love to kick you in the balls .
so how do you explain all the eyewitnesses that saw a plane hit the WTC?

 

[Southwick_Seagull]

great response Pasta brain. I've proven to you that cannabis is being used to cure cancer which you were previously slating. Once proven wrong your now playing the 'You are Falmer' card. Desperation to hold an argument. Pasta brain why don't you report me to the mods or make a thread about me being falmer instead of trying to debate with someone who is far more intelligent than you, Your a complete drone head who highlights the word Arab 17 bloody times without even knowing it's definition whilst trying to make out i was being racist!!
Seriously, keep to your football debates. I feel sorry for you 17 times over (sad case lol)

headline is misleading - Cancer Research UK - Science Update blog

Anyone can find anything on the internet and claim that it's fact. Arguably the link I've posted is a more credible source but I'm guessing concerns around validity aren't high on your agenda. Stating for a "fact" that cannabis can categorically cure cancer just isn't true.

 

[tezz79]

so arab applies to the gentleman of Jamaican decent as well does it?

i have your number rosa, [MENTION=19187]tezz79[/MENTION] has a lot more dignity and compassion than i do for letting you off for what you said,personally i would love to kick you in the balls .
so how do you explain all the eyewitnesses that saw a plane hit the WTC?

Not really compassion or dignity I just won't rage over a forum.
If somebody wanted to make comments about my children to my face I'll happily tell them where they can find me but if they're unwilling to say it to my face then they're just proving they are not worth worrying about mate which is why it's best left

 

[Rosa]

its a trait the conspiracy lunatics have no problem in continuing,they care not of the victims or the relatives of victims from 9/11.they dont think or care for one minute how insulting or hurtful their theories are.........all that is important is me me me me me me! it only goes to say they will not care about you and your son and how hurtful comments can be......sad pricks is the least i can say on here.

good luck with your kid

That's weird because I know someone who lost a family member in the 9/11 attacks. He's outraged that the attacks never went under proper investigation and wants closure because it doesn't make sense to him that a plane can travel through a building and come out the other side perfectly unscathed, and then managed to collapse the whole building with just it's jet fuel whilst destroying building 7 at the same time. He thinks we should keep talking untill we uncover the truth so the victims get justice. There has been a recent poll in New York which now shows more New yorkers believe 9/11 was an inside job that those those who believe it wasn't.
Why is it so selfish to think Bin Laden who was once employed by the US government (FACT) might of been working with the US in this attack? It's been put about a lot that these terrorist organisations are funded by the US government so it's very clear to see why people would doubt the media's explanation.
Ultimately it's ridiculous to say all we care about is ourselves when mentioning this conspiracy theory. No one questioned what the Nazis were doing throughout ww2 until afterwards when the holocaust was discovered so lets learn from history and question the bullshit in-front of our face.

 

[pastafarian]

great response Pasta brain. I've proven to you that cannabis is being used to cure cancer which you were previously slating.)

actually i wasnt slating it at all,here is what i wrote,i was simply asking a question

falmer says taking marijuana helps his paranoia,depression and mental illness..........is this the sort of alternative treatment you advocate

so please stop your lies!

Pasta brain why don't you report me to the mods

the simple answer to that is i dont want to why should i when i am correct,i leave things like reporting to the mods up to people like falmer who does it when he is losing a discussion who also lets be honest cant get enough of doing it,something to do with being an insecure bellend who cant think his arguments through.......or a nutter..... one of the two anyway