there was no moon landing .... discus

[sten_super]

2) Why would they, when they can continue holding the ace card up their sleeve. Plus they're planning some faked missions of their own I think.

Sorry, but this doesn't make sense to me. My understanding is that the Soviet missions to get man to the moon unravelled before the Apollo missions got there - if the Soviets couldn't get there there's no reason they'd hold back from telling everyone and his dog if the Americans were faking the whole thing immediately. That would save them a lot more face than simply holding on to the fact for future use.

What exactly do you believe about the space programmes? Have unmanned vehicles made it to the moon? Has anyone made it since the first 'faked' landing?

 

[Brovion]

A nice little earner for NASA & the Military Industrial Complex, helped to fund the Vietnam war.

Well I'm not sure how it 'earnt' money, with the exception of Teflon there wasn't even any commercial spin-offs as the technology involved was all old hat. Plus they didn't even sell the TV rights! Also don't forget the US military were opposed to the whole civilian Apollo project in the first place; they thought it was a just massively expensive vanity project designed to massage Kennedy's ego as he'd promised to 'put a man on the moon and return him safely to earth' and wanted to be seen to be making good on his promise. They'd rather the money had been spent on more sophisticated cold war weaponry.

 

[Brovion]

1) From the taxpayer, the American public happy to fund such a feel good project.

2) Why would they, when they can continue holding the ace card up their sleeve. Plus they're planning some faked missions of their own I think.

If that's true surely it would have made more sense to make the first few missions fail? That way they could have demanded even more money to get it right. As it was the American public were bored with it, by the time of the third landing people were ringing the TV stations to complain that a repeat of "I Love Lucy" had been cancelled in order to show another 'boring' moon landing.

 

[Brightonfan1983]

It would be impossible for the lunar mission to have even broken free of the earth's atmosphere given that our planet is FLAT.




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[colinz]

Well I'm not sure how it 'earnt' money, with the exception of Teflon there wasn't even any commercial spin-offs as the technology involved was all old hat. Plus they didn't even sell the TV rights! Also don't forget the US military were opposed to the whole civilian Apollo project in the first place; they thought it was a just massively expensive vanity project designed to massage Kennedy's ego as he'd promised to 'put a man on the moon and return him safely to earth' and wanted to be seen to be making good on his promise. They'd rather the money had been spent on more sophisticated cold war weaponry.

The billions that were supposedly spent sending men to the moon a half dozen times, must have been spent somewhere.
The available funds no longer available when the charade had run it's course.

 

[colinz]

Sorry, but this doesn't make sense to me. My understanding is that the Soviet missions to get man to the moon unravelled before the Apollo missions got there - if the Soviets couldn't get there there's no reason they'd hold back from telling everyone and his dog if the Americans were faking the whole thing immediately. That would save them a lot more face than simply holding on to the fact for future use.

What exactly do you believe about the space programmes? Have unmanned vehicles made it to the moon? Has anyone made it since the first 'faked' landing?

The Soviets didn't get there simply because it's not possible. The whole Cold War/ Space race issue has been heavily overstated.

Man never has & never will make it to the moon.

 

[sten_super]

It would be impossible for the lunar mission to have even broken free of the earth's atmosphere given that our planet is FLAT.

Please tell me this is not a wind-up. I'd love it if we had an FE'er on this board.

 

[One Love]

Talking of space,I liked Professor Cox's eloquent and FINAL dismissal of alien Sightings this week. The moon landing and alien sighting people must be fewer in number than the flat earthers.

I really like Brian Cox, when he talks about science, that is. His recent programmes where he lectures about quantum physics were amazing. Great aptitude in explaining complex matters to layman.

It's when he drifts into other subjects he knows nothing about and dismisses them with a "there,there, silly boy" approach that he let's himself down.

 

[watsongooal]

I get the how we landed on the moon. What I dont get is how they got from the moon back to the shuttle!!!

 

[sten_super]

The Soviets didn't get there simply because it's not possible. The whole Cold War/ Space race issue has been heavily overstated.

Man never has & never will make it to the moon.

Which part is not possible? Getting a craft out of the atmosphere? Getting humans out of the atmosphere? Getting a craft to land on the moon? Getting a human out of his craft on the moon and on to the surface?

You still haven't really explained why the Soviets wouldn't reveal it was a big hoax - even more so if it was a physical impossibility.

 

[beorhthelm]

Please tell me this is not a wind-up. I'd love it if we had an FE'er on this board.

For your entertainment.

 

[colinz]

Which part is not possible? Getting a craft out of the atmosphere? Getting humans out of the atmosphere? Getting a craft to land on the moon? Getting a human out of his craft on the moon and on to the surface?

You still haven't really explained why the Soviets wouldn't reveal it was a big hoax - even more so if it was a physical impossibility.

It's physically impossible for a Human Being to survive more then 500 miles outside of the Earth's atmosphere.

As for the Soviet not spilling the beans stuff, they've been beholden to the US for decades. Cheap grain, financial bail outs etc.
Getting a bit late down here, hopefully tomorrow I can explain it better.

 

[beorhthelm]

The Soviets didn't get there simply because it's not possible. The whole Cold War/ Space race issue has been heavily overstated.

Man never has & never will make it to the moon.

whats not possible about it? its actually pretty simple, aim and shoot. its the returning part thats tricky.

if you try invoking the Van Allen belt, the dose of radiation would have been about the same as the permitted limit for a nuclear plant worker.

 

[Brovion]

The billions that were supposedly spent sending men to the moon a half dozen times, must have been spent somewhere.
The available funds no longer available when the charade had run it's course.

Yes, probably on all the devices that were used to fake the missions and on the bribes to people to stay silent. None of that could have come cheap.

 

[MattBackHome]

If you chucked a discus really hard on the moon, would it fly all the way round and hit you on the back of the head??

 

[Gregory2Smith1]

the moon's a sideshow really

the big question is,where does space end

buzz lightyear knows,but he ain't telling

 

[Dominoid]

Myth busters did a special on moon theories a few Weeks ago on discovery. it pretty much debunks all the conspiracy theories. Man landed on the moon, I see no evidence to suggest otherwise.

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[brightn'ove]

It's physically impossible for a Human Being to survive more then 500 miles outside of the Earth's atmosphere.

bullshit.

proof please.

 

[Vega]

Not this boring old chestnut again. It would have been more of an achievement to fake it than do it. Look for other important questions in life more important

 

[throbinson]

In fact they should just host the olympics on the moon, that would be impressive.

there would be a new high jump and pole vault records