London Calling
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Top tips, however, not all Chateauneufs are the same. And get one that has developed for that special night.
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Top tips, however, not all Chateauneufs are the same. And get one that has developed for that special night.
London Calling
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Greek red wine
Easy, that's PURE Partridge! What would Tony Hayres say to Kourtaki?
What do you do for white, by
the way - Blue Nun?!
Ignorance dear boy.
Classic "French" snobbery.
Man of Harveys
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I've heard (admittedly without trying any) that Greek wines are very much on the up at the moment.
cheeseroll
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If you're on a budget then you can't beat Southern Hemisphere wines but if you are out on biz then Chateau Latour and Poulle Fousse is my red/white combo!
Easy 10
Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Greek red wine
Easy, that's PURE Partridge! What would Tony Hayres say to Kourtaki?
What do you do for white, by
the way - Blue Nun?!
How very DARE you.
Its Liebfraulmilch all the way.
I will indeed look out for that, cheers LC.
aftershavedave
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most new world wines are overly strong and produced by philistines who think that strength and power of taste compensate for all manner of other problems.
most eastern european and for that matter greek wines are produced for volume not taste (and see above re strength).
old world wines for me, especially french burgundy and bordeaux, some italian reds and for a very pleasant surprise go hungarian.
top tips:
margaux: not cheap but fantastic bordeaux
mid priced burgundy red
sancerre (red white or rose)
pinot noir from alsace
tokaj from hungary
cheers!
most eastern european and for that matter greek wines are produced for volume not taste (and see above re strength).
old world wines for me, especially french burgundy and bordeaux, some italian reds and for a very pleasant surprise go hungarian.
top tips:
margaux: not cheap but fantastic bordeaux
mid priced burgundy red
sancerre (red white or rose)
pinot noir from alsace
tokaj from hungary
cheers!
London Calling
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Barnet Seagull
Luxury Player
Sancerre and Poily Fume for white are top drawer in my book - but I'll have to admit, my white wine knowledge is sadly lacking - I usually ask my friend who's a buyer.
But if red is your thing I recommend a good Rioja as a sensible starting point for those trying to get involved in wines.
So Grab yourself a decent Rioja.
Then grab yourself a bottle of
Tempranillo
a Garnacha Tinta
a wine heavy in Graciano
and a wine heavy in Mazuelo.
both the Graciano and Mazuelo are blending grapes, but you should be able to recognise the tastes in other wines.
A Rioja is generally a blend of all the grapes above, so you should soon be able to pick out distinctly different tastes from each. Find a taste you like, and find another blended wine - then strip out the components of that... For me, this approach works better than drinking the wines in isolation first.
Once you've figured out grapes, then it's a geography lesson. Using Rioja as an example again, a simliary region in terms of climate and geography is Valdepenas. Try some of them and compare them to the wines of La Mancha which is vastly different. Again, find a region you like - find out a bit about it and off you go on the hunt for bargain red.
But if red is your thing I recommend a good Rioja as a sensible starting point for those trying to get involved in wines.
So Grab yourself a decent Rioja.
Then grab yourself a bottle of
Tempranillo
a Garnacha Tinta
a wine heavy in Graciano
and a wine heavy in Mazuelo.
both the Graciano and Mazuelo are blending grapes, but you should be able to recognise the tastes in other wines.
A Rioja is generally a blend of all the grapes above, so you should soon be able to pick out distinctly different tastes from each. Find a taste you like, and find another blended wine - then strip out the components of that... For me, this approach works better than drinking the wines in isolation first.
Once you've figured out grapes, then it's a geography lesson. Using Rioja as an example again, a simliary region in terms of climate and geography is Valdepenas. Try some of them and compare them to the wines of La Mancha which is vastly different. Again, find a region you like - find out a bit about it and off you go on the hunt for bargain red.
aftershavedave
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As it happens the average strength of French wines is increasing year by year as they move towards what the market is demanding and not what French wine snobs are saying is good wine.
true, and more's the pity!
true, and more's the pity!
I went there for the opening night.
My wife worked on it.
Man of Harveys
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I quite like GOING to these wine villages - so far I've been to Chateauneuf du Pape - a tiny Provencal village not far from Mount Ventoux, Sancerre - a gorgeous but again very small town right next to Pouilly, and Eparnay in Champagne, the only place where - utterly shamefully - I drank and drove. The Perrier Jouet tour is fab and much more authentic than the glitzier Moet et Chandon one.
Tooting Gull
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Two decent wines I've had recently were (red) from South Africa Mulderbosch 'Faithful Hound', and (white) from Italy a Lugana (Ca' dei Frati vineyard). Had them in restaurants, got a few bottles much cheaper on the internet after.
There is an incredible Aladdins cave of wines in a Wimbledon industrial estate somewhere that does loads of South African stuff.
There is an incredible Aladdins cave of wines in a Wimbledon industrial estate somewhere that does loads of South African stuff.
dougdeep
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What ever happened to the days when people used to make they're own wines? I've made and drank some very potent home brews in the past.
I used to make my own Beetroot Wine, it was very red and very nice.
its all down to matter of taste (no shit sherlock)
for a lovely red...full bodied yet smooth and fruity, try an australian shiraz.
its not a 'session' wine though, its to be savoured with a nice meal.
i have one every sunday with me roast beef.
most chillean reds are ok
dont like white
for a lovely red...full bodied yet smooth and fruity, try an australian shiraz.
its not a 'session' wine though, its to be savoured with a nice meal.
i have one every sunday with me roast beef.
most chillean reds are ok
dont like white
dougdeep
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Can you still get Bull's Blood? Great for barbeques.
London Calling
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I went there for the opening night.
was she one of the construction team?
Lord Bracknell
On fire
Unable - as always - to resist the temptation to plug the stuff ...
I recommend the Brunello di Montalcino Biondi-Santi Riserva. Especially the 1888 vintage (correct - EIGHTEEN eighty eight).
The last bottle to be sold went for €20,658.
I remember being shown round the cellars by old man Biondi-Santi and being told how to keep 100 year old wines in perfect condition for sale. He sold one bottle a year to finance a luxury holiday. He thought people were CRAZY to pay those prices - especially since he had a cellar full of them.
Drink with sausages on sticks.
I recommend the Brunello di Montalcino Biondi-Santi Riserva. Especially the 1888 vintage (correct - EIGHTEEN eighty eight).
The last bottle to be sold went for €20,658.
I remember being shown round the cellars by old man Biondi-Santi and being told how to keep 100 year old wines in perfect condition for sale. He sold one bottle a year to finance a luxury holiday. He thought people were CRAZY to pay those prices - especially since he had a cellar full of them.
Drink with sausages on sticks.