The Vaccine Thread

[spongy]

I'm sure me and my 6 year old daughter have already had it. I was really ill in January with what I thought was a bad chest infection and cold and so was she.

I've had to isolate twice since the summer now costing me a frigging fortune.

My wife tested positive last month so we had round 2 of isolation. But after 2 tests a week apart neither me or the 6 year old were positive but our 17 month old was ill (couldn't put her through another test emotionally)

So in my eyes if I've already had it why am I pissing about with masks and vaccines? I now have Tcell immunity as Covid is 80% similar to 4 corona virus related cold viruses?

I would need to know if I have a natural immunity now and don't need one to save it for someone else.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Don't get me wrong, I understand why the elderly are being prioritised here. It's just that the first recipient of the vaccine is symbolic and their identity will be remembered. Choosing someone who has a significantly higher risk of death by natural causes at any given moment than a much younger person just seems like a bit of a risk to public trust in the vaccine, should that happen (and again, I sincerely hope it doesn't).

I agree, also 65-75 are surely more likely to be out and about?

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

The Oxford/AstraZeneca Covid vaccine is safe and effective, giving good protection, researchers have confirmed in The Lancet journal.

Most in the study were younger than 55, but the results so far indicate it does work well in older people too.

The data also suggests it can reduce spread of Covid, as well protect against illness and death.

The paper, assessed by independent scientists, sets out full results from advanced trials of over 20,000 people.

Regulators, who will have seen the same data, are considering the jab for emergency use.

Emergency use as in fast tracked out?

 

[darkwolf666]

Don't get me wrong, I understand why the elderly are being prioritised here. It's just that the first recipient of the vaccine is symbolic and their identity will be remembered. Choosing someone who has a significantly higher risk of death by natural causes at any given moment than a much younger person just seems like a bit of a risk to public trust in the vaccine, should that happen (and again, I sincerely hope it doesn't).

My wife and I had exactly the same discussion today. God forbid this lady has any health problems in the near future, the anti-vaxxers would have a field day...

 

[Mellotron]

Unfortunately a couple of "severe" reactions to the Pfizer vaccine have been reported. In both instances, they are people with a history of allergic reactions, so it is being recommended that people with a history of problems with allergies do not take the Pfizer vaccine.

It should also be said though, just to reassure, that "both are now recovering well."

 

[sydney]

My wife and I had exactly the same discussion today. God forbid this lady has any health problems in the near future, the anti-vaxxers would have a field day...

don't detract from the matter , why a ****ing 91 yr old when health workers are surely far more worthy if they are willing ......soooooo wrong.....again.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

I'm sure me and my 6 year old daughter have already had it. I was really ill in January with what I thought was a bad chest infection and cold and so was she.

I've had to isolate twice since the summer now costing me a frigging fortune.

My wife tested positive last month so we had round 2 of isolation. But after 2 tests a week apart neither me or the 6 year old were positive but our 17 month old was ill (couldn't put her through another test emotionally)

So in my eyes if I've already had it why am I pissing about with masks and vaccines? I now have Tcell immunity as Covid is 80% similar to 4 corona virus related cold viruses?

I would need to know if I have a natural immunity now and don't need one to save it for someone else.

Virtually everyone I know thinks they have had it. They all have varying degrees of 'evidence' as well. I think there is a psychological syndrome in play in the population tbh.

So 'if' is the key here.


Regardless, any natural immunity is unlikely to be as good as the vaccine so best get it anyway.

 

[Poojah]

Virtually everyone I know thinks they have had it. They all have varying degrees of 'evidence' as well. I think there is a psychological syndrome in play in the population tbh.

So 'if' is the key here.


Regardless, any natural immunity is unlikely to be as good as the vaccine so best get it anyway.

Oddly, I'm the complete opposite in that I feel adamant that I haven't had it. I haven't had so much of a sniffle this year (touch wood!), which I put down to the usual coughs and colds that would be flying around having also been repressed by social distancing. If I've had it, then I've had it completely asymptomatically.

I have to be careful though as it does create a bit of a false sense of security. The virus is clearly so incredibly transmissible, and I've definitely made my fair share of mistakes throughout the year (biting my nails having just been in the supermarket for instance) it makes you wonder if it's really ever gonna get you. Of course, everything in the news reaffirms that the threat remains very real, it's just that your own personal experience in any circumstance has quite a compelling impact on your unconscious outlook.

 

[Poojah]

Pfizer vaccine now approved in the US.

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19...oval-by-us-government-advisory-panel-12157588

Edit: misread it slightly; it’s been ‘recommended for approval’ with official approval expected to follow.

 

[Is it PotG?]

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-news-live-uk-updates-more-than-a-quarter-of-people-reluctant-to-get-vaccine-12153928

 

[Billy the Fish]

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-news-live-uk-updates-more-than-a-quarter-of-people-reluctant-to-get-vaccine-12153928

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This is what they found:

2% were "eager" to get the COVID-19 vaccine

39% were "willing"

10% were "not bothered"

9% were "unwilling"

5% were "anti-vaccination" for COVID-19

 

[Mellotron]

This is what they found:

2% were "eager" to get the COVID-19 vaccine

39% were "willing"

10% were "not bothered"

9% were "unwilling"

5% were "anti-vaccination" for COVID-19

Yet a different poll painted 25% as unwilling, with 70% willing and 5% unsure.

 

[Bodian]

Took my father-in-law for his first vaccine jab today. He's 86. Pretty smooth, loads of 85-90 year old all given the same timeslot, so about 40 of them all queuing outside on a cold, windy morning. So, they all huddled together for warmth! Probably exposed themselves to more risk than they have done for months. However, once inside after about 15 mins, all ran smoothly and all out again after about 20 minutes or so. Those with specific conditions /medicines had to hang around for a while to see if they had any adverse reactions.

 

[Gazwag]

So are they leaving elderly in the worst areas just to die I wonder, nearest vaccination centre to the area which will soon have the biggest increases in Covid is 25 miles away, in affluent Tunbridge Wells.

 

[sparkie]

So are they leaving elderly in the worst areas just to die I wonder, nearest vaccination centre to the area which will soon have the biggest increases in Covid is 25 miles away, in affluent Tunbridge Wells.

Tier 4 Tunbridge Wells.

 

[A1X]

I appreciate this is an over-simplification, but given everything that's going on is there any chance they could, y'know, get on with it?

 

[Gazwag]

Tier 4 Tunbridge Wells.

373 per 100,000

Hastings 805 per 100,000

 

[Rugrat]

Will need to get back when my turn comes round (65) and that will probably involve quarantine when I get there.

I guess it's a moving feast but if anyone has any word on these it would be helpful:

- How much notice is being given?
- How easy/difficult is it to switch appointment dates?

We could just come back a few weeks before we think we will get call/text, but feels a lot safer where we are

 

[worthingseagull123]

Why can we not sure the makers of vaccine in the event of an adverse reaction?

 

[clapham_gull]

Why can we not sure the makers of vaccine in the event of an adverse reaction?

Because the vaccine has been placed under a special scheme under the Vaccine Damages Act.

If you suffer a severe adverse reaction you are entitled to compensation from the Government.



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