Machiavelli
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Don’t think I’ve seen a performance that bad since CATS
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You haven't had to wait too long between them then.
Don’t think I’ve seen a performance that bad since CATS
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Actually can't stand Stephens and never have. I'll get flamed for it but don't care. Very rare I ever hear a good word about him from any fans.
Boring sideways player who slow the whole game down and gets in the way.
But that’s because you don’t really understand football. It’s the same thing people that slag off Jordan Henderson say.
He is in a bad patch of form agreed, but his role is very much required in a team - as his long service for us has shown.
I find this idea that because we question Stephens ability we somehow don’t understand his role and/or the game in general. This is an oft repeated line. There’s nothin new or particularly special or difficult to understand about this role; we get it. It’s his ability to perform the role which is being questioned.
But that’s because you don’t really understand football. It’s the same thing people that slag off Jordan Henderson say.
He is in a bad patch of form agreed, but his role is very much required in a team - as his long service for us has shown.
I find this idea that because we question Stephens ability we somehow don’t understand his role and/or the game in general. This is an oft repeated line. There’s nothin new or particularly special or difficult to understand about this role; we get it. It’s his ability to perform the role which is being questioned.
Yep, he was crap. Radio Sussex and 5Live also thought that Bong and Bissouma were shockingly poor. Their summaries - Maupay was the only player who showed desire, attitude, who cared. Uncreative from the off, embarrassed by Championship opposition in our own stadium. Disgraceful performance by Stephens and 8 other outfield players.
As with the Villa match, I genuinely feel for the loyal punters who paid and optimistically turned up expecting a cup performance and win.
Short changed, robbed, pathetic.
But that’s the whole point, ‘all he does is pass it sideways’ - his role isn’t to start running at and beating players, or spraying balls around. It’s keep hold of it, gain some space and look for passes into the attacking players.
Basically don’t take risks, leave that to the players in front of him
Fair play. You might remember that after a couple of months, I said that he had been our best player. But he's been deteriorating since then, and the decline has been precipitous recently. When we play badly, it invariably makes him stand out.
He's been such a key player for us for more than half a decade now but a spell on the sidelines is his likely near future. More interesting is what awaits his mid-term future.
But I never said what his role is, I said I understand it. So I never said his role is to start running etc.
My post wasn’t aimed at you!
Yep, he was crap. Radio Sussex and 5Live also thought that Bong and Bissouma were shockingly poor. Their summaries - Maupay was the only player who showed desire, attitude, who cared. Uncreative from the off, embarrassed by Championship opposition in our own stadium. Disgraceful performance by Stephens and 8 other outfield players.
As with the Villa match, I genuinely feel for the loyal punters who paid and optimistically turned up expecting a cup performance and win.
Short changed, robbed, pathetic.
But that’s the whole point, ‘all he does is pass it sideways’ - his role isn’t to start running at and beating players, or spraying balls around. It’s keep hold of it, gain some space and look for passes into the attacking players.
Basically don’t take risks, leave that to the players in front of him
But that’s because you don’t really understand football. It’s the same thing people that slag off Jordan Henderson say.
He is in a bad patch of form agreed, but his role is very much required in a team - as his long service for us has shown.
And that’s only half the game anyway. The better part of his game is when the opposition have the ball, interceptions, tackles, occupying the right spaces etc. That’s the bit that never gets discussed.
Yes. It is possible we could upgrade Stephens but it’s still the same role / kind of player. Like I say , the same kind of things Jordan Henderson gets ‘criticised’ for.
Not defending Stephens today, but people saying he doesn’t do anything / only passes sideways need to understand the game. See also the Lampard / Gerrard playing together thing
Banging on about understanding the game. I'm sure you know more then the rest of us, and you've played at a high level.
Given you’ve never rated Stephens it sounds like you should be a managing in the premier league or championship at least given he has pretty much been ever present under Garcia, Hughton & Potter - since he signed in January 2014 [emoji41]