The "Ultra's" are killing the atmosphere

[Bean]

I thought our fans sounded excellent on the radio

 

[hans kraay fan club]

I would love to share my evidence, but last time I posted some clear evidence at least one NSK member was linking himself to hooliganism the thread was moved and I received an infraction.

You have 24hours to PM me hard evidence of a link between the NSK and the EDL. If it is not forthcoming, you can issue a full apology on here, or accept a permanent ban.

 

[c0lz]

exactly the opposite of what they are trying to achieve.

Today there were fans divided blokes singing retro songs, blokes singing 'usual' songs, and goons singing the new drivel.

It re-inforced how split the fans have become. One of the good things about Gillingham/early Withdean days was that few goony kids went. In the later years, it because easier to get tickets, and all the retards started going. Now, they are at the teenage age when they can start chants with their few mates and think it's funny/good, like their magiko bollocks.

You know, I know it, everyone knows it. The rubbish north stand/palace song has divided everyone. The rest of the crap they sing does the same. The atmosphere today was woeful largely because the NSKunts don't approve of singing something that isn't foreign, complicated and crap.

Away games used to be much more fun when everyone stuck to singing the same thing loudly, regardless of whether the ultra goons like it. Our away fans these days? One of the worst in the league, and a lot of it is their fault. Expect Amex atmosphere to go the same way and be as quiet at St Andrews was today if they keep on singing the same drivel.

Give it a rest you are one big plonker

 

[Shooting Star]

I really don't get your point. I'm not part of NSK, but appreciate their efforts to make an atmosphere. I've seen the minority of a few muppet teenagers who'd rather have a go at opposition fans than get behind the team, but who is to know if they're part of NSK? But yesterday, the Ultras song wasn't started once (though I'd like it to have been). Yesterday was classic songs and even a really old one that I hadn't heard before. There was hardly even any banter with the away fans either that you could attribute as 'childish'. Not sure what else you expect from an away game? I would have thought yesterday's game was one for the more traditional Albion fan?

 

[Goring Gull]

As long as we make some noise i'm not really bothered what the singing is. I personally think the "Stand up if you hate Palace" song has had it's day and makes me cringe unless we are playing Palace i also think the "right side/left side Brighton boys" is bollocks aswell but at least we are making some noise.

 

[SEAGULLS TILL I DIE]

only 20 yearsold and go to most away games and been a season ticket holder since preistfield and believe me it is probably the best it has ever been, in terms of suppport and noise! i dont know any of these 'ultra' people or whoever they are but if they are supporting the team then who cares maybe if everyone got involved it would be good but people like you who are moaning all the time make it not work with your 'change is not good' attitude, therefore making you the one who ruins the support! see how tides change
saying that, leave the palace chant alone please, its rubbish!

 

[Another Berkshire Seagull]

There is an element of truth in this from yesterday. From where I was sat the atmosphere was obviously stifled because two sets of fans were trying to start chants and seldom did the whole end join in.


Don't appreciate the personal attack tho from RRH on the NSK, many of whom I know and are a top group who just want to create a bit of noise and vibe at games, but they (NSK) have to apreciate that in order to get everyone to join in their songs shouldnt preclude anyone else from starting chants and they need to learn to embrace and join in others chants and maybe then these other groups will join in with theirs, because without this they are actually in a way damaging the atmosphere they crave by splitting the crowd in factions.

 

[Richard Reynold's Haircut]

There is an element of truth in this from yesterday. From where I was sat the atmosphere was obviously stifled because two sets of fans were trying to start chants and seldom did the whole end join in.


Don't appreciate the personal attack tho from RRH on the NSK, many of whom I know and are a top group who just want to create a bit of noise and vibe at games, but they (NSK) have to apreciate that in order to get everyone to join in their songs shouldnt preclude anyone else from starting chants and they need to learn to embrace and join in others chants and maybe then these other groups will join in with theirs, because without this they are actually in a way damaging the atmosphere they crave by splitting the crowd in factions.

good post with no anger x

 

[Pantani]

There is an element of truth in this from yesterday. From where I was sat the atmosphere was obviously stifled because two sets of fans were trying to start chants and seldom did the whole end join in.


Don't appreciate the personal attack tho from RRH on the NSK, many of whom I know and are a top group who just want to create a bit of noise and vibe at games, but they (NSK) have to apreciate that in order to get everyone to join in their songs shouldnt preclude anyone else from starting chants and they need to learn to embrace and join in others chants and maybe then these other groups will join in with theirs, because without this they are actually in a way damaging the atmosphere they crave by splitting the crowd in factions.

Because of course we don't join in with anyone else's chants. I mean really, do you think we have all agreed a set of songs we will and won't sing? That we won't sing a song that was started by someone who is not in our group? I joined in with every chant/song I heard all match as did all my friends around me, bar the slapper in the white bit at the end.

The real reasons Brighton fans always seem to be split in to two or three groups at away days (and at home for that matter) is that modern stadiums force this to happen, we can't all congregate right next to each other like on a terrace so the vocal support is spread right across the back of a stand. It is difficult to hear what other people are singing if they are twenty metres to the side of you. The only solution I can see to this problem of several sets of singers is for all fans to stick to their songs for longer (ie more than two verses), allowing everyone to join in.

 

[Another Berkshire Seagull]

Because of course we don't join in with anyone else's chants. I mean really, do you think we have all agreed a set of songs we will and won't sing? That we won't sing a song that was started by someone who is not in our group? I joined in with every chant/song I heard all match as did all my friends around me, bar the slapper in the white bit at the end.

The real reasons Brighton fans always seem to be split in to two or three groups at away days (and at home for that matter) is that modern stadiums force this to happen, we can't all congregate right next to each other like on a terrace so the vocal support is spread right across the back of a stand. It is difficult to hear what other people are singing if they are twenty metres to the side of you. The only solution I can see to this problem of several sets of singers is for all fans to stick to their songs for longer (ie more than two verses), allowing everyone to join in.

Of course there isn't a blocked/banned list. We just need to listen out for others a bit more.

As an example there was a group for vast periods of the second half trying to get a "Gus Poyet's Blue & White Army!" chant going, they sang it continually for long periods, and their volume not insignificant just not sung by NSK and so only sung by the left half the crowd, maybe if NSK had heard/joined in then it may have made it over to the right.

 

[Pantani]

Of course there isn't a blocked/banned list. We just need to listen out for others a bit more.

As an example there was a group for vast periods of the second half trying to get a "Gus Poyet's Blue & White Army!" chant going, they sang it continually for long periods, and their volume not insignificant just not sung by NSK and so only sung by the left half the crowd, maybe if NSK had heard/joined in then it may have made it over to the right.

True, but we just didn't hear it. The sound does not travel along the back of the stand, especially if it is with a concrete ceiling absorbing the noise.

 

[Another Berkshire Seagull]

True, but we just didn't hear it. The sound does not travel along the back of the stand, especially if it is with a concrete ceiling absorbing the noise.

Fair play, but from where I was it then became obvious we had split sections...Maybe split into different areas? and listen out for each of ther and embrace chants from those those around (as well as starting a few). After all it might solve the space problem when arriving late


Dunno the solution was just agreeing with RRH that it was obvious the crowd was very divided yesterday. Dont agree with his tone tho.

 

[Working class pride]

This may not be popular but I think the idea of Ultra is naff, very spotty Nigel, hence palace have them. However I expect I'm just getting old and looking at the teenagers and cringing in the same way that I expect the adults looked and probably cringed at my generation.

 

[Another Berkshire Seagull]

This may not be popular but I think the idea of Ultra is naff, very spotty Nigel, hence palace have them. However I expect I'm just getting old and looking at the teenagers and cringing in the same way that I expect the adults looked and probably cringed at my generation.

Lets not dig this one up again. Accept that they exist, accept they want (and do make noise), accept they are loyal and passionate fans like you are, accept that they will be there when you go and then overlook the fact thay have given themselves a name.

 

[El Presidente]

I would love to share my evidence, but last time I posted some clear evidence at least one NSK member was linking himself to hooliganism the thread was moved and I received an infraction.

Put up or shut up please.

I have met the NSK, there is no way they would align themselves to the illiterati that are the EDL.

 

[Deleted User X18H]

I am in the Kollective North End (1901 division) of the Ultra's of Brighton and we hate the Brighton Ultra's NSK..bastards

Our latest song is (to agadoo and the chicken song) '' have a pie or baugette or a nice cup of coffee ,sit around at half time and watch Malcolm's jamboree'' If they start the second half and you still some want some more don't worry too much as we never seem to score''

 

[Gazwag]

Richrd Reynolds Haircut, Keyser Soze and Champage Charles on the way home after a night out at MacDonalds

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Don't really care about the NSK one way or the other. They really shouldn't use the term 'Ultras' though, it makes them a bit of a laughing stock.

 

[Goring Gull]

Don't really care about the NSK one way or the other. They really shouldn't use the term 'Ultras' though, it makes them a bit of a laughing stock.

Agreed - I associate ultras with Italian hoolligans and i'm sure other clubs fans would think the same.

 

[Keyser Söze]

Richrd Reynolds Haircut, Keyser Soze and Champage Charles on the way home after a night out at MacDonalds

The one on the far left actually has a fair resemblance to Charlie.