The Syria crisis

[Mutts Nuts]

Where is it going to end
http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...t-syria-conflict-end-after-global-war-warning

 

[symyjym]

When the Saudi, Turkey and other Sunni States sponsored foreign fighters, aka the so called moderate rebels, admit defeat and leave.

 

[JC Footy Genius]

Where is it going to end
http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...t-syria-conflict-end-after-global-war-warning

Further bloodshed and chaos, unimaginable human suffering, mass refugee crisis?

We leave them to it after our previous failed interventions in the middle east so Russia steps into the vacuum with Iran and Hezbollah.

Syria conflict: Bashar Assad vows to retake whole country

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-35561845

 

[symyjym]

Further bloodshed and chaos, unimaginable human suffering, mass refugee crisis?

We leave them to it after our previous failed interventions in the middle east so Russia steps into the vacuum with Iran and Hezbollah.

Syria conflict: Bashar Assad vows to retake whole country

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-35561845

Wahhabist foreign rebels fighting from populated areas and using the people they say they are protecting as human shields. They don't care about the people, if they did they would leave.

 

[JC Footy Genius]

Wahhabist foreign rebels fighting from populated areas and using the people they say they are protecting as human shields. They don't care about the people, if they did they would leave.

Who does care for the people?

 

[symyjym]

Who does care for the people?

For Assad he has a duty to protect the people who live in and have escaped to Damascus. If he and his army left, everyone in Damascus would be slaughtered. On the other hand if the foreign rebels left there would be no further collateral damage.

If the below video was happening in our country, we would want to be protected from it?

Syrian Rebels Praise Bin Laden: 2012

https://youtu.be/vsq5ZRir-0k

 

[Albion Dan]

The whole stinking affair makes me sick to my stomach and ashamed of the human race. By far the biggest humanitarian catastrophe in my lifetime and yet again all in the name of oil and money. Can see this one ultimately leading to world war 3.

 

[symyjym]

Al-Qaeda Songs Praising 9/11 Sung by Saudi Jihadis in anti-Assad Demonstration in Syria

https://youtu.be/8jy_yN-tRT8

 

[beorhthelm]

By far the biggest humanitarian catastrophe in my lifetime and yet again all in the name of oil and money.

is it? no, Syria has no meaningful oil reserves on the global scale. its in the name of religious, sectarian divisions.

 

[JC Footy Genius]

For Assad he has a duty to protect the people who live in and have escaped to Damascus. If he and his army left, everyone in Damascus would be slaughtered. On the other hand if the foreign rebels left there would be no further collateral damage.

If the below video was happening in our country, we would want to be protected from it?

Syrian Rebels Praise Bin Laden: 2012

https://youtu.be/vsq5ZRir-0k

Do you work for the Syrian government or have you some undeclared interest that makes you support a brutal dictator?

 

[symyjym]

The whole stinking affair makes me sick to my stomach and ashamed of the human race. By far the biggest humanitarian catastrophe in my lifetime and yet again all in the name of oil and money. Can see this one ultimately leading to world war 3.

Yep, you couldn't make it up.

The biggest issue is that the Sunni Wahhabists believe that this is their destiny to fight to the end because they believe this is Judgment Day. That's how it has been sold to them and it is written in their Quran. It has more to do with this Judgment Day than what it has to do with Assad, he is just the excuse. If Mickey Mouse was President they would hate him too.

Channel 4 News creates a little clip on the conflict in Syria. With Jon Snow.

https://youtu.be/_g4SwvuhBRs

 

[symyjym]

Do you work for the Syrian government or have you some undeclared interest that makes you support a brutal dictator?

Do you work for the Saudi Sunni Wahhabists or have you some undeclared interest that makes you support the brutal monarchy that exports terror?

 

[JC Footy Genius]

Do you work for the Saudi Sunni Wahhabists or have you some undeclared interest that makes you support the brutal monarchy that exports terror?

You have attempted to defend Assad (the indefensible). When did I do the same for Saudi Sunni Wahibsts or Saudi Arabia?

Care to answer the question?

 

[Albion Dan]

is it? no, Syria has no meaningful oil reserves on the global scale. its in the name of religious, sectarian divisions.

The west and Qatar/Saudi want to build an oil pipeline through Syria in order to reduce the need for Iranian oil that we currently rely on. Qatar are paying for the rebels to continue the war to get rid of Assad as he is pro Russia/Iran so won't let the oil through. And that's what this utter disgrace of a conflict really boils down to.

 

[Albion Dan]

The west and Qatar/Saudi want to build an oil pipeline through Syria in order to reduce the need for Iranian oil that we currently rely on. Qatar are paying for the rebels to continue the war to get rid of Assad as he is pro Russia/Iran so won't let the oil through. And that's what this utter disgrace of a conflict really boils down to.

 

[symyjym]

You have attempted to defend Assad (the indefensible). When did I do the same for Saudi Sunni Wahibsts or Saudi Arabia?

Care to answer the question?

I understand Assad's position and you are anti Assad because of all the propaganda you listen to.

You do realise that the chemical attacks were nothing to do with Assad.

UN accuses Syrian rebels of chemical weapons use.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...es-Syrian-rebels-of-chemical-weapons-use.html

Mustard gas used in Syria fighting: UN watchdog

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/11/mustard-gas-syria-fighting-watchdog-151105232221500.html

You know that in that peaceful protest 7 police died and the Baath Party Headquarters and courthouse were torched.

http://www.wikileaksparty.org.au/sy...ian-intervention-by-prof-michel-chossudovsky/

Wikileaks CIA document from 2006 discussing ways to weaken the Syrian government.

https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/06DAMASCUS5399_a.html

And Wesley Clark stating that the US wanted a war in Syria to bring about regime change.

https://youtu.be/9RC1Mepk_Sw

But don't let the truth get in the way.

 

[Half Time Pies]

Do you work for the Syrian government or have you some undeclared interest that makes you support a brutal dictator?

I have noticed that there is a growing trend on the internet of pro-putin 'new world order' conspiracy theorists. Putin is held up as an icon for his strong stance against American imperialism.

If you support this type of view then you will naturally come down on the side of Assad.

 

[JC Footy Genius]

I understand Assad's position and you are anti Assad because of all the propaganda you listen to.

You do realise that the chemical attacks were nothing to do with Assad.

UN accuses Syrian rebels of chemical weapons use.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...es-Syrian-rebels-of-chemical-weapons-use.html

Mustard gas used in Syria fighting: UN watchdog

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/11/mustard-gas-syria-fighting-watchdog-151105232221500.html

You know that in that peaceful protest 7 police died and the Baath Party Headquarters and courthouse were torched.

http://www.wikileaksparty.org.au/sy...ian-intervention-by-prof-michel-chossudovsky/

Wikileaks CIA document from 2006 discussing ways to weaken the Syrian government.

https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/06DAMASCUS5399_a.html

And Wesley Clark stating that the US wanted a war in Syria to bring about regime change.

https://youtu.be/9RC1Mepk_Sw

But don't let the truth get in the way.

I'm sure some people claim they understand Hitler/Stalin/XDictator but that doesn't excuse their actions. Assad is a brutal dictator that is a fact not propaganda.

Now for the third time I ask if would you care to divulge the vested interests/reasons that cause you to defend the indefensible?

 

[JC Footy Genius]

I have noticed that there is a growing trend on the internet of pro-putin 'new world order' conspiracy theorists. Putin is held up as an icon for his strong stance against American imperialism.

If you support this type of view then you will naturally come down on the side of Assad.

Good point I have also noticed this trend even on this forum. Makes you wonder which side some people are on.

 

[symyjym]

I'm sure some people claim they understand Hitler/Stalin/XDictator but that doesn't excuse their actions. Assad is a brutal dictator that is a fact not propaganda.

Now for the third time I ask if would you care to divulge the vested interests/reasons that cause you to defend the indefensible?

Assad is more justified in defending his people than Bush and Blair’s illegal war in Iraq that caused hundreds of thousands of deaths that led to the rise of Daesh.

If Assad is a war criminal he would be down in the queue behind Bush and Blair. Our own government has acted worse than he has done.

I’ve given you a Wikileaks doc, Wesley Clark’s comments, what happened in the so called peaceful demonstration, and UN statements with regard to who was really using chemical weapons.

You know that the war was instigated with outside interference from Saudi, Turkey and that the US and Britain were vocal in their support for a violent uprising and selling arms to the Sunni States to supply the foreign rebel fighters.

Logic says that it is not just Assad to blame.

It is possible to understand an opposing side of an argument without agreeing with it, but you are not willing to understand it.

If you want to discuss what is going on in Syria that is fine but I’m not going to argue with you because we have been down this road before.