The students are at it again after the Queen's Speech

[The Spanish]

I'm guessing, crazy as it may seem, that they may have been joking?

Let's hope so!

*waitrose Sowetan Pinot noirs all round!*

 

[The Spanish]

Exactly , its pitiful......

I just hope they didn't mean any overseas students, being boring and square and very focussed on academic achievement. But surely they wouldn't mean them now.......

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Youre going to rather a lot of trouble for someone who ' doesnt care ', rather proving my point I think..........


***** waits for ' whatever ' style reply from HT*****

But you've just quoted a post where I stated I DO care?

 

[alfredmizen]

No, I wasn't.

The point the lecturers were making is that university should be about challenging your assumptions, exploring new ideas, debating issues. I did philosophy so they were talking very much about how the course is more than coming out with a 2.1. When I was at uni, I edited the college newspaper, helped set up a magazine, did some acting/directing at the drama society, played football, rugby and cricket, appeared on University Challenge, came second in the university chess tournament and won the bridge one, went on many demonstrations and attended most student union meetings. I also did plenty of drinking and gig going too - maybe I could have spent more time on academic work but I did OK, missed a first by just a few percent and have no regrets. Would my experience at university be any better if I'd done none of these things and studied for a few more hours every week? I don't think so

You sound like you more than made the most of your time at university, but different people have different aims , aspirations, the path you followed , whilst suiting you, may not have been for everyone.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

No, I wasn't.

The point the lecturers were making is that university should be about challenging your assumptions, exploring new ideas, debating issues. I did philosophy so they were talking very much about how the course is more than coming out with a 2.1. When I was at uni, I edited the college newspaper, helped set up a magazine, did some acting/directing at the drama society, played football, rugby and cricket, appeared on University Challenge, came second in the university chess tournament and won the bridge one, went on many demonstrations and attended most student union meetings. I also did plenty of drinking and gig going too - maybe I could have spent more time on academic work but I did OK, missed a first by just a few percent and have no regrets. Would my experience at university be any better if I'd done none of these things and studied for a few more hours every week? I don't think so

You might have to explain this to Mr Mizen

 

[alfredmizen]

But you've just quoted a post where I stated I DO care?

You stated that you care about 'times' getting slower , we both know that what youre really worried about is 20 somethings sniggering at the bald , 40 something grandad who thinks hes still got it.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

You stated that you care about 'times' getting slower , we both know that what youre really worried about is 20 somethings sniggering at the bald , 40 something grandad who thinks hes still got it.

Whatever

Waits for Mizen to jump up and down excitedly saying "told you so, told you so."

 

[Nibble]

Youre going to rather a lot of trouble for someone who ' doesnt care ', rather proving my point I think..........


***** waits for ' whatever ' style reply from HT*****

He was still fit enough to see you off of his front step wasn't he.

 

[alfredmizen]

He was still fit enough to see you off of his front step wasn't he.

No, no he didnt, despite what he may tell you , he shit a brick, the invitation is still there, same as it is for you,anytime you want to give it the large one face to face, just let me know.

 

[Nibble]

No, no he didnt, despite what he may tell you , he shit a brick, the invitation is still there, same as it is for you,anytime you want to give it the large one face to face, just let me know.

Whatever.

 

[Simster]

Lovely stuff.

 

[Hillian1]

He was still fit enough to see you off of his front step wasn't he.

No, no he didnt, despite what he may tell you , he shit a brick, the invitation is still there, same as it is for you,anytime you want to give it the large one face to face, just let me know.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

This is going well.

 

[Nibble]

For someone who doesn't think people should stand up and fight for what they believe in , old Mizen likes to throw it about a bit!

 

[melias shoes]

All this conversation about degrees and not needing them for bricklaying. No you don't but I have a city and guilds qualification in bricklaying and took 4 years to achieve. Which to some extent is a degree in bricklaying. It's not just about laying bricks you know.

 

[RexCathedra]

All this conversation about degrees and not needing them for bricklaying. No you don't but I have a city and guilds qualification in bricklaying and took 4 years to achieve. Which to some extent is a degree in bricklaying. It's not just about laying bricks you know.

I can read Greek and Latin, and sweat copper pipe.
I have an (expired) sanitary tile layer's license.

I've taught the first, and done the second and third, for a living at different times in my life.

Whatever happened to the ideal of the Renaissance man?

 

[Thunder Bolt]

All this conversation about degrees and not needing them for bricklaying. No you don't but I have a city and guilds qualification in bricklaying and took 4 years to achieve. Which to some extent is a degree in bricklaying. It's not just about laying bricks you know.

When a tradesman had City & Guilds following an apprenticeship, it was a great qualification. My brother is a time served tool maker.

 

[RexCathedra]

I'd like to see everyone learn a trade in school, even those who are university-bound.

It's good for you, and may prove a safety net.

Hands to work, and hearts to God, as the Shakers used to say.

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

200. Wow.

The protests on June 20th will be a little more lively as the hard left from all over the UK converges on the streets of London.

 

[Soulman]

When a tradesman had City & Guilds following an apprenticeship, it was a great qualification. My brother is a time served tool maker.

It was a great qualification. I was talking to a chap today who has done a 16 week course to get his Electrical qualifications, never been on site before. He asked me about my apprenticeship, i informed him it was 6 weeks college and 4 weeks on site ongoing for the first year, 4 weeks college and 6 weeks on site for the second year ongoing, and 1 day at college and 4 days on site for the third year ongoing. After exams I ended up with Basic Craft Studies in the 1st year, Elec Installations A in the second, the B in the third year and Mechanical Technicians (Elec Bias) .
I could not come out of my time until aged 20, (21 if i had not passed my B) then had to do two years as an Electrician before i could apply to become an Approved Electrician. Years ago if you did not obtain the B you were an Electrician and was on a lower rate.
Now all Electricians are graded the same, and proper apprenticeships are scarce. People just get the qualifications and many have not done the practical, just theory.
A 5 year apprenticeship it was known as.
I never had time to go on demos because i was on site through the student holidays........working.