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The Strauss-Ponting bust-up at the end of play.....



Jonno

Enthusiasm curbed
Oct 17, 2010
766
Cape Town
I actually haven't enjoyed the commentary that much this time. I've watched a mixture of Sky and Channel 9 and it's amazing how partisan each of the commentary teams are. As regards Sky, it's mostly Botham who is the problem - biased, unable to admit he might be wrong about anything and a complete lack of ability to understand why anyone would do something he disagrees with. Nasser's also a bit dull. Amongst the Aussies, Ian Healy is the worst, completely unable to show any impartiality in assessing the teams, gets ridiculously carried away whenever an Aussie hits a boundary or takes a wicket and comes across as sulky when England are on top. Same with Mark Taylor, although to a lesser degree. Bill Lawry also very biased I find.
 




mcshane in the 79th

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Nov 4, 2005
10,485
I actually haven't enjoyed the commentary that much this time. I've watched a mixture of Sky and Channel 9 and it's amazing how partisan each of the commentary teams are. As regards Sky, it's mostly Botham who is the problem - biased, unable to admit he might be wrong about anything and a complete lack of ability to understand why anyone would do something he disagrees with. Nasser's also a bit dull. Amongst the Aussies, Ian Healy is the worst, completely unable to show any impartiality in assessing the teams, gets ridiculously carried away whenever an Aussie hits a boundary or takes a wicket and comes across as sulky when England are on top. Same with Mark Taylor, although to a lesser degree. Bill Lawry also very biased I find.

I agree about Botham he can get a bit OTT if they do something he disagrees with. The others I think are pretty good though, particularly Bumble
 


highway61

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Jun 30, 2009
2,628
I quite enjoy Bumble and Warne when they are together and Gower is fine by me too, as is Mikey Holding. Botham i find irksome at time
 


Robbie G

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Jul 26, 2004
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Botham does get annoying commentating. Generally though, Sky have a good mix of different types of commentators.

Mark Nicholas is a good presenter and commentator, shame he doesn't commentate in England much nowadays.
 








John Bumlick

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Apr 29, 2007
3,483
here hare here
Mark Nicholas is a good presenter and commentator, shame he doesn't commentate in England much nowadays.

no, no, it really isn't. the bloke is ridiculous - every boundary is the best shot he's ever seen by the greatest player ever to play the game. he must also have a MASSIVE capacity for storing memories as i've lost count of the number of times i've heard him say something along the lines of "and all those who saw it will remember it for the rest of their lives". i think he really wants to be remembered as one of the all time greats - every time he opens his mouth it sounds like he's trying to be like Richie Benaud in his prime or come out with something that will go down in televised sports history like a Kenneth Wolstenholme line...

sorry but, as you might have guessed, he really winds me up. :)
 


Lady Whistledown

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Jul 7, 2003
47,624
I don't have a problem with a commentator or summariser having some kind of leaning, that's frequently inevitable, so long as the presentation is reasonable.

Ones I like:

-Sir Richie Benaud
-Sir Geoffrey Boycott
-Jim Maxwell
-Blowers
-Tony Greig and Bill Lawry, mainly for comedy value
-Tony Cozier (lovely Caribbean accent)
-Tuffers (funny)
-Bumble (randomly entertaining)

I don't particularly like Botham, as he's a little too self important for my liking. So is Boycott, but at least Sir Geoffrey is something of a caricature, which Beefy isn't. Trevor Bailey's voice used to drive me nuts when he was on. I find David Gower a bit smug, and Nasser Hussain just dull.
 




mikeyjh

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Dec 17, 2008
4,607
Llanymawddwy
no, no, it really isn't. the bloke is ridiculous - every boundary is the best shot he's ever seen by the greatest player ever to play the game. he must also have a MASSIVE capacity for storing memories as i've lost count of the number of times i've heard him say something along the lines of "and all those who saw it will remember it for the rest of their lives". i think he really wants to be remembered as one of the all time greats - every time he opens his mouth it sounds like he's trying to be like Richie Benaud in his prime or come out with something that will go down in televised sports history like a Kenneth Wolstenholme line...

sorry but, as you might have guessed, he really winds me up. :)

He is the suavest bloke every though.
 


Gwylan

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Jul 5, 2003
31,821
Uffern
I don't have a problem with a commentator or summariser having some kind of leaning, that's frequently inevitable, so long as the presentation is reasonable.

Ones I like:

-Sir Richie Benaud
-Sir Geoffrey Boycott
-Jim Maxwell
-Blowers
-Tony Greig and Bill Lawry, mainly for comedy value
-Tony Cozier (lovely Caribbean accent)
-Tuffers (funny)
-Bumble (randomly entertaining)

I don't particularly like Botham, as he's a little too self important for my liking. So is Boycott, but at least Sir Geoffrey is something of a caricature, which Beefy isn't. Trevor Bailey's voice used to drive me nuts when he was on. I find David Gower a bit smug, and Nasser Hussain just dull.

Think I'd agree with all of that

Add Aggers, who for all his public school japery is pretty good, my old boss CMJ, coolness personified, Michael Vaughan - who's a really perceptive summariser and, when he was on, Mike Selvey. Sadly, his row with TMS means that we'll never hear Selvey again but he was brilliant.

Mark Nicholas is too smug by three-quarters - looks like the personification of a cad who's always trying to seduce somebody else's wife
 


Lady Whistledown

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Jul 7, 2003
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Aggers, CMJ and Vaughan do a perfectly decent job, but the ones I listed are my favourites :thumbsup:

Though I do find it hard to listen to Benaud, Greig and Lawrie without thinking of the Twelfth Man broadcasts :lolol:
 




Statto

007
Nov 11, 2005
4,317
Graceland Memphis
My favorate comentator on sky has to be Michael Holding. Also think Atherton and gower talk alot of sense.

Cant beat good old Johnners tho on tms! (RIP)
 


Lady Whistledown

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Jul 7, 2003
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My favorate comentator on sky has to be Michael Holding.

Oh yes, I knew there was one of the West Indies players. He has a great voice. I think Ian Bishop also does it when England are involved in games with the WI, and he's good too.
 


Jonno

Enthusiasm curbed
Oct 17, 2010
766
Cape Town
Ian Bishop = the campest fast bowler I've ever seen or heard. Good broadcaster though.
 




jakarta

Well-known member
May 25, 2007
15,738
Sullington
Jim Maxwell is the only Aussie who doesn't have a huge chip on his shoulder and CMJ is our best by a Country Mile - cant listen to any of the TV lot except Benaud.

Dont get me started on the teenagers the BBC have started to use.....
 


Lady Whistledown

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Jul 7, 2003
47,624
Jim Maxwell is the only Aussie who doesn't have a huge chip on his shoulder and CMJ is our best by a Country Mile - cant listen to any of the TV lot except Benaud.

Dont get me started on the teenagers the BBC have started to use.....

I was listening to Jim Maxwell this morning when I woke up unexpectedly early, I just think he's spot on. Extremely intelligent insight, knows exactly the right tone to use at any given time, and is just the right side of subjective when it comes to England-Australia games.

Ian Chappell, on the other hand, is a bit of a cartoon figure I find, and his voice grates.
 


Mackenzie

Old Brightonian
Nov 7, 2003
33,998
East Wales
'Aggers' and 'Tuffers' are my favourites. On the telly, I like Warne and Benaud.
 


Chesney Christ

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Sep 3, 2003
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no, no, it really isn't. the bloke is ridiculous - every boundary is the best shot he's ever seen by the greatest player ever to play the game. he must also have a MASSIVE capacity for storing memories as i've lost count of the number of times i've heard him say something along the lines of "and all those who saw it will remember it for the rest of their lives". i think he really wants to be remembered as one of the all time greats - every time he opens his mouth it sounds like he's trying to be like Richie Benaud in his prime or come out with something that will go down in televised sports history like a Kenneth Wolstenholme line...

sorry but, as you might have guessed, he really winds me up. :)

Agreed. Mark Nicholas is absolutely APPALLING. His ridiculous over-reactions to fairly regular shots, means he has nowhere to go when truly fantastic moments occur. Nicholas is a truly terrible cricket commentator.
 




PHCgull

Gus-ambivalent User
Mar 5, 2009
1,323
another vote of hate against Nicholas.

"SIXER!!!!!"

Its a f***ing six, you cock.
 


Pavilionaire

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Jul 7, 2003
31,251
Nicholas the presenter is excellent but Nicholas the commentator is pretty ordinary. Warney is absolutely brilliant, regardless of whatever team's in the ascendancy, I'm not a big fan of Bumble. Michael Holding is the coolest man in the booth.
 


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