The SAS shot the innocent Brazilian bloke

[junior]

This is why the Police and i would imagine the government too are shitting themselves about it coming out.


I dont think the papers will let this lie and its only a matter of time before it all comes out in the wash.


You heard it here first.

 

[ben andrews' girlfriend]

It wouldnt surprise me in the slightest if it was the SAS the way that the police have tried to cover it up - albeit badly.

 

[Garry Nelson's Left Foot]

Didn't someone say it was forces other than the police that shot him within a day or two of it actually happening. Hampshire seagull maybe? Or am i imagining it?

 

[NMH]

This is why the Police and i would imagine the government too are shitting themselves about it coming out.


I dont think the papers will let this lie and its only a matter of time before it all comes out in the wash.


You heard it here first.

Why would you not believe the regular police could make such a clownfest fuckup?
What have the SAS done in the past to make anyone thing their intelligence is so godawful?

 

[bhaexpress]

Re: Re: The SAS shot the innocent Brazilian bloke

Why would you not believe the regular police could make such a clownfest fuckup?
What have the SAS done in the past to make anyone thing their intelligence is so godawful?

You only have to look at the Police who killed a NAKED man in Eastbourne for an example if not a reason.

 

[HampshireSeagulls]

Didn't someone say it was forces other than the police that shot him within a day or two of it actually happening. Hampshire seagull maybe? Or am i imagining it?

Nope, not me. Not SAS anyway. There would have been multi-force liaison with the whole operation, but the Met had opcon for the whole thing. The Met Armed Units use their own tactical controllers, not those from outside, although they do train together.

The trouble with anti-terrorist units is that their manpower can merge, depending on the requirement of the job. Military specialists (not all gun-toting, balaclava boys either) work with HMC&E, Police and other enforcement agencies in this country and others. Don't bet on the final gun team being SAS.

 

[HampshireSeagulls]

Re: Re: Re: The SAS shot the innocent Brazilian bloke

You only have to look at the Police who killed a NAKED man in Eastbourne for an example if not a reason.

But, to be fair, he was under the covers with the biggest hardon the coppers had ever seen.

Not sure if they shot him because they thought it was a weapon, or because they were jealous.

Seriously, don't forget that if they interpreted his actions as though he had made a move for a weapon, and the police were more than a flying leap away to restrain him, then they may have made the erroneous call to shoot and make safe. Again, lots of noise, confusion and intelligence still ends up with the poor sod with his finger on the trigger.

 

[bhaexpress]

True enough.

 

[London Calling]

I did suggest it at the time and also asked \hampshire, when the hand over goes from So13 thru to MI5 to the SAS all of which can carry use firearms.

 

[Monkey Man]

Two points, both trivial:

1. I didn't hear this speculation here first. I heard it on the Five Live phone-in within days of the shooting. An expert was saying it sounded like the SAS or army had carried out the killing.

2. The naked bloke was in Hastings, not Eastbourne.

Carry on!

 

[Springal]

wouldnt be SAS, they wouldnt get involved in civvie stuff, be special branch or someit

 

[Brighton TID]

i believe it was the sas.

you can bet your life that they are patrolling each and every station on the underground system as we speak, ready for the next bomber. they won't be shouting about it though.

 

[London Calling]

Not really civie stuff wehen you have a suspect train bomber?LC

 

[Yorkie]

Of course the SAS are involved in national security at the moment.

Junior haven't you signed the official secrets act?

 

[empire]

Didn't someone say it was forces other than the police that shot him within a day or two of it actually happening. Hampshire seagull maybe? Or am i imagining it?

yes very old news
when are the fixtures out

 

[Brixtaan]

i believe it was the sas.

you can bet your life that they are patrolling each and every station on the underground system as we speak, ready for the next bomber. they won't be shouting about it though.

rubbish

 

[Beach Hut]

i believe it was the sas.

you can bet your life that they are patrolling each and every station on the underground system as we speak, ready for the next bomber. they won't be shouting about it though.

I doubt there would be enough SAS to patrol every single LUL Tube station - they are an elite force therefore not many in number.

 

[HampshireSeagulls]

Two points, both trivial:

1. I didn't hear this speculation here first. I heard it on the Five Live phone-in within days of the shooting. An expert was saying it sounded like the SAS or army had carried out the killing.

2. The naked bloke was in Hastings, not Eastbourne.

Carry on!

"or the Army" - totally unlikely. You would not release general infantrymen onto the streets of London where they are untrained in the anti-terrorist campaigns. They would not be used as roving trigger groups by the police - this was a completely uninformed statement and should cast doubt on anything else that the "expert" has to say.

Too many experts around, most of them with nothing much to offer except soundbites and sensationalism. It is in their interest to make it sound like they have an inside track on the news, it's what gets them reinvited (and paid again) by the news channels. There are very few "security experts" who are actually security experts - they tend to be desk officers/analysts who have left the service to move into private work in the business sector. Some of them may work on a contracted basis with the security services, but if they appear on TV dishing out soundbites, they will find their contracts rapidly disappearing!

The SAS will not be patrolling underground stations - despite the amount of people who claim to be in the SAS, it does not number 25000 people!

The rumour that the SAS are involved has previously been put to good use - especially in Northern Ireland. A couple of ops resulting in faces being killed tends to put a little bit of doubt in the minds of the rest - "it is good to kill one Admiral to encourage the others" I think the phrase is - meaning that one well placed loss is worth ten times that in the fear that the rest of the group will feel.

There will be liaison between all the services, but this will be extremely fluid and tightly controlled, depending on the situation.
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Too many naked blokes in Hastings anyway, so one less could be classed as humane culling.

 

[swindonseagull]

Junior,

I am in a superior service to you (RAF) and have been for 25 plus years. IF you have heard something in the bar irt will only be rumours, The SAS do not go around telling people what they do or where they go.
on several ocasions I have flown the guys to places and they do not say a word about ops..
So grow up stop starting or spreading rumours, you did sign the Official secrets act when you joined the army.

 

[ben andrews' girlfriend]

Junior,

I am in a superior service to you (RAF) and have been for 25 plus years. IF you have heard something in the bar irt will only be rumours, The SAS do not go around telling people what they do or where they go.
on several ocasions I have flown the guys to places and they do not say a word about ops..
So grow up stop starting or spreading rumours, you did sign the Official secrets act when you joined the army.

That told you Junior!!!