[Albion] The return of capital punishment?

[Live by the sea]

Its a yes from me if its absolutely obvious who committed the crime. I suspect lots of these gangs going around stabbing people while on their bikes in london and then laughing in their favourite fried chicken shop a few mins later would then think twice about murdering people

 

[studio150]

Bentley and Craig

 

[Perfidious Albion]

Would a public vote support it? Probably not .
Would I support it? Yes......... for the worst crimes and subject to a higher burden of proof.

 

[Tory Boy]

Guildford Four.

Birmingham Six.

TB

 

[doogie004]

A referendum would probably vote in favour of capital punishment.

There won't be a referendum.

We had vote For brexit and spent the last three years arguing about it . Live in a nanny state no chance of it happening


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[Ernest]

Blame the cuts to the police , the legal system, the prison system as well as all the cuts to youth services. Bringing back the death penalty won’t cure that

 

[Saunders]

There will be mistakes there are ALWAYS mistakes in the justice system. You cant bring them back to life to apologise.

They seem to have a horrific time for the rest of their lives in prison anyway.

Also in some US states they dont deal a death penalty to pedophiles because they know it will increase the chances of them killing their victims. This would also be the case for any other crime with a death sentence.

Nobody who wants it cares about the impact on the people who are hired to kill people. Just reading about that should put most people off.

 

[Triggaaar]

I’d go for the guillotine

What was your crime?

 

[Blues Rock DJ]

With another Policeman murdered in the line of duty if there was a referendum to bring back the death penalty, would this country vote to bring back hanging for certain crimes, killing of police officers, children, terrorist offences etc?

And would the pro hanging lobby also campaign for retrospective death sentences?

The names of Ian Huntley and Roy Whiting spring to mind.

Police officer.....ladies also get killed on duty !!

 

[Saunders]

Actually we don't (not that I'm recommending it's return in any way) - even one wrong person hung is one too many, obviously, but we really haven't got a habit of hanging lots of wrong people, according to the laws in place at that time.

Well there have been cases especially since DNA evidence has kicked in that would have resulted in a death penalty had it still been in force. I find it very convenient that they had a perfect record before these cases could be challenged by better technology.

 

[theboybilly]

Bentley and Craig

Not really a good example. The killer was known but underage. The wrongful mis-sentencing was down to a woefully negligent Lord Chief Justice Goddard who ignored pleas for clemency (as did the Home Secretary) and went for judicial vengence instead

 

[banjo]

A Palace season ticket should be punishment enough. No other deterrent needed.

 

[Sarisbury Seagull]

Of course it shouldn’t come back in a humane society. It’s just more twisted, right wing bollocks.

 

[portslade seagull]

No, Im not a pacifist but we have an appalling habit of hanging the wrong bloody person.

This, castration for kiddie fiddlers though

 

[symyjym]

I think that anyone who kills and dismembers or disposes of the body should certainly receive the death penalty. The step brother of Becky Watts springs to mind along with Huntley and Whiting just to start with.

 

[The Rivet]

Some food for thought maybe, (copied from Politicall Scapbook website)

Derek Bentley was hanged in 1953. In a robbery during which Craig was carrying a gun, Bentley, who had a mental age of 10, shouted “Let him have it!” to his friend who then shot PC Miles. Bentley’s defence claimed he meant for Craig to give miles the gun, but the prosecution alleged he meant to shoot him. He was posthumously pardoned in 1993, and his conviction quashed by the Court of Appeal in 1998, after a long campaign by his sister Iris. Unfortunately, she did not live to see it.

Ruth Ellis was the last woman to be executed in England for the murder of her lover, David Blakely, at Holloway Prison in 1955. The jury took just 14 minutes to find her guilty. Ellis did not appeal against her conviction. Ellis’ family campaigned for her murder conviction to be reduced to manslaughter on the grounds of provocation. They argued Ellis was suffering “battered woman syndrome”. She had suffered a miscarriage just 10 days before the killing after David Blakely had punched her in the stomach. The defence of diminished responsibility did not then exist.

Timothy Evans was hanged in 1950, convicted of the murder of his wife and daughter, later found to have been actually committed by his neighbour, the serial killer John Christie. In an investigation marked with poor practice, the police failed to find other human remains in Christie’s garden, and were alleged to have coerced a false confession from Evans. He was granted a royal pardon (posthumously) in 1966, but despite an attempt to have the conviction quashed in 2004, judges refused on grounds of cost- although they accepted he hadn’t been guilty.

George Kelly was hanged in 1950, convicted of the murders of Leonard Thomas and John Catterall in a burglary of the Cameo Cinema in Liverpool. The investigation led to Kelly as a small-time criminal active in the area. Kelly’s conviction was overturned in 2003, after it came to light that Merseyside Police had ignored reports of an apparently genuine confession from another man.

Mahmood Hussein Mattan was a Somali national hanged in 1952 for the murder of Lily Volpert. He was arrested and charged by police after testimony from another suspect in the case, which more closely matched another suspect, not Mattan. Evidence was also omitted from court of an eyewitness identification which seemed to exonerate Mattan. His case was the first to be reviewed by the new Criminal Cases Review Commission, and in 1998 the Court of Appeal found the case was “demonstrably flawed”.

 

[Saunders]

This, castration for kiddie fiddlers though

What would you do to compensate when you are wrong?

 

[The Rivet]

What would you do to compensate when you are wrong?

Clackers!

 

[wellquickwoody]

Why should the murder of a police officer have a more severe punishment than the murder of any other citizen?.

To quote you, wow, just wow.

And no, I do not agree with the death penalty.

 

[portslade seagull]

What would you do to compensate when you are wrong?

Normally 100% proven. Some actually request it to stop the urges. Would you rather they reoffend