The promised land. Getting further away......

[RexCathedra]

The problem with that is you would then get even dodgier owners, who would pocket all the TV cash, and just fund pub standard teams, safe in the knowledge that they will still be able to do it all again the next season, and the next, and the next etc. etc.

It would turn Premier League teams into instant 'money trees'.

So what if they lose 7 or 8 nil each week... The owner is still garanteed 50+ million a year for just owning the club, and why on Earth would they bother to share that with players.

There would be 5-6 teams chasing European football, and 14-15 rubbish outfits acting as ATMs for their owners.

Profit-sharing and luxury taxes have created precisely this scenario in American major league baseball.
Miami, Tampa Bay, Pittsburgh, Kansas City, Milwaukee, have all recently at least from time to time been run that way.
4x gap between largest and smallest payroll -- and it's been larger.

Of course, one of the cheapskate franchises -- Houston Astros -- presently leads their division.

 

[Pistol Knight]

On the positive side, at least Phil Gartside and Bolton Wanderers are still on the wrong side of the divide.

He was one of the main people promoting no relegation, bet his hopes they never bring that idea back up

Hard to disagree with most on here, wages topped £1.9b in the PL last season!!!!

Its gets obscener by the year, average players are on about £30,000 a week!!! (squad players even!!!!)

It was also a disgrace that Norwich's Parachute payments were paid back into PL clubs because they went up (made us £1.2m) that money should have been shared out between the championship clubs to improve the chances some dont go bust! (except yourselves of course because you are loaded)

 

[beorhthelm]

The problem with that is you would then get even dodgier owners, who would pocket all the TV cash, and just fund pub standard teams, safe in the knowledge that they will still be able to do it all again the next season, and the next, and the next etc. etc.

you've just explained why the leading Premier League cups would never go for it, they know it would kill the competition. no one want to see 7-0 thumpings every week, they want Man U or Arsenal losing 1-2 to some mid-table club, it adds excitment and interest. and in the far east, unpredictability to drive a massive betting industry.

 

[gregbrighton]

I don't know why people are complaining. This is capitalism. If fans don't want this, they can walk away and stop feeding the billionaires/millionaires.

 

[8th battalion East Lancs]

We all know that it's a load of crap and makes it harder for some to compete financially, but I think that Brighton's problem is that you've had four managers in just over two years (and obviously all the better players that you've sold).

I'd say that has had some effect on 'getting further away' from the promised land.

Brighton are well capable as a club to get there because it isn't all about money in the Championship (although obviously it can help). Burnley were in the Division1/Championship for 9 seasons before we were promoted and we've had to sell every decent player we've had in that time to make a do.

 

[Pistol Knight]

Can we have Ings?

 

[gordonchas]

Disagree. Current TV deal was a tipping point in terms of PL finances. The next one will increase profitability even further, and that's before the overseas rights are renegotiated.

A couple of questions for you:

What do you expect the typical wage bill of a run-of-the-mill PL side will now be?
How much do you expect a run-of-the-mill PL side will pay out in transfer fees each year?
How much will be needed to be set aside every year by every run-of-the-mill PL side to ensure that when they're relegated they have enough to cover the huge drop in income?

 

[El Presidente]

A couple of questions for you:

What do you expect the typical wage bill of a run-of-the-mill PL side will now be?
How much do you expect a run-of-the-mill PL side will pay out in transfer fees each year?
How much will be needed to be set aside every year by every run-of-the-mill PL side to ensure that when they're relegated they have enough to cover the huge drop in income?

Average wage bill 2013/14 was £95million. Expect that to increase about 7-8% next season and 10-12% in 2016/17 when the new domestic TV deal kicks in. So if the Albion were promoted next season the average bill would be about £115 million. We presently pay £22 million.

Fees are impossible to predict. Palace haven't splashed out much but have finished 12th and 10th.

I don't think clubs will budget for relegation as such. PL operating profits will break the £1 billion barrier in 2016/17, whereas losses in the Championship will exceed £250 million. PL clubs will spend to try to keep the right side of that dividing line.

 

[Kevlar]

we have an oligarchy in European football.Barcelona,Madrid,Munich,Paris,
Chelsea,Man City ,Man U,Arsenal a few other sleeping giants which could
rise with an input of money.Juve have done fantastic with less money.
But the rest of the premiership teams will still miss out on the really scarce
talent and I am not convinced that there is enough scarce talent to make
such a difference lower down the league for well put together squads with
the best suitable strategies the southhampton and swanseas to do well.
There are minimum requirements of national players which top teams already
struggle to fill -just how much more foreign exceptional talent which is not attracted
to other top European sides out there?
If recent increases of premiership money have not led to increasing yo-yoing
between premiership and championship then why expect more increase to
deliver a different result?
I think relegated teams will continue to struggle to win promotion in the championship.
They lose all there best players ,normally already lost the manager that won promotion
for them and have to build again with the weight of recent failure.
I have always thought the best way of fairer competition is individual or squad wage caps
if this legally and practically is a non goer ( even thou it does happen in some US sport)
then guarantee an increasing number of academy players in the squad should (JFC)develop
a better relationship between squads and fans .
FFP has always been about protecting those clubs already apart of the oligarchy.