[Albion] The Process

[ElderlyWilliam]

I am curious.
- What is it?
- When did it start?
- When is it planned to finish?
- What follows the conclusion of the current process?
- Has our process been tried by any other clubs?
- Will the current process merge into a new process?
- Did we pay anything for it?
- If we didn’t have the current process, would we have another one?
- Wht are the consequences if we have no process?

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

Do you trust it though?

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

It's a smokescreen that various managers tend to hide behind to make it seem like they have a masterplan

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

I guess, I understand it as the manager's attempt to get all of the players to do all the particular patterns of play that he wants us to do

 

[Berty23]

I guess, I understand it as the manager's attempt to get all of the players to do all the particular patterns of play that he wants us to do

Yep. Baleba is proving a slow learner. On a few occasions he has found himself filling the hole between defence and the attackers. Overtime he will learn we don’t want anyone doing this job and get forward more leaving that space.



Sorry I could not resist.

 

[macbeth]

said something similar in the ‘Fab OUT’ thread. all well and good to appreciate that we are an ever-evolving squad, and with each addition and departure there is going to be an element of adaptation required, and it is essentially a constant journey, always with room for improvement.

what i don’t like is when people use the term ‘process’ to justify inadequacies in the present. yes, obviously the manager needs more time to implement his ideas and it would be ridiculous to sack him, but you could make a constant case for ‘trusting the process’, season after season. realistically we have a level of depth and quality that we aren’t going to have again, especially if we do not get europe, so this argument that we just ‘trust the process’ and all will be well eventually doesn’t really wash with me, as we’ll potentially be in exactly the same situation of needing an adjustment period next season having had to sell half our first 11.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

said something similar in the ‘Fab OUT’ thread. all well and good to appreciate that we are an ever-evolving squad, and with each addition and departure there is going to be an element of adaptation required, and it is essentially a constant journey, always with room for improvement.

what i don’t like is when people use the term ‘process’ to justify inadequacies in the present. yes, obviously the manager needs more time to implement his ideas and it would be ridiculous to sack him, but you could make a constant case for ‘trusting the process’, season after season. realistically we have a level of depth and quality that we aren’t going to have again, especially if we do not get europe, so this argument that we just ‘trust the process’ and all will be well eventually doesn’t really wash with me, as we’ll potentially be in exactly the same situation of needing an adjustment period next season having had to sell half our first 11.

It's from the same school of meaningless psychobabble as 'a work in progress'

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

Look, it's just an equivalent of 'keep the faith' 'don't get to high when you win don't get too low when you lose', we're not as good as you think we are, not as bad as you think we are', so on and so forth.

It's about patience. A trait that is undervalued but is so essential when trying to rise up the premier league.

It is not a bloody stick to beat us with because we haven't won in four. I've spent considerable periods of my life with Brighton not having won in four. We're going to get through this boys!

 

[lost in london]

A rare opportunity to see the moaners out in the wild.

Get a grip. No team ever 'makes it'. Every organisation, team, family, group of friends etc is going through one process or another. That's life, not psychobabble.

 

[Justice]

If the process.is getting out played by the worst team in the league at home, then I don’t trust it.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

If the process.is getting out played by the worst team in the league at home, then I don’t trust it.

Keep the faith, the process is a work in progress

 

[AmexRuislip]

It's from the same school of meaningless psychobabble as 'a work in progress'

Didn't he used to work as a bouncer on the doors of Barrowlands way back

 

[jcdenton08]

I’ll take this one.

- What is it? A process in a football sense is putting into action a long-term plan on and off the field in order to achieve desired objectives, such as achieving a targeted league position, winning a specific competition, or focusing on a philosophy to achieve the above goals (such as building a young team, developing them with top level experience).

- When did it start? Bloom’s project started when he took the reins, developing and funding the building the Amex, the Elite Performance Centre and targeting the Premier League. Hürzeler’s project started when he was appointed manager.

- When is it planned to finish? Either when the targets are achieved, whatever they are (I’d assume they are based on league finishes primarily) or the manager is replaced which can happen for several reasons.

- What follows the conclusion of the current process? A new process.

- Has our process been tried by any other clubs? Yep, lots. Clubs see the success of a particular way of operating and think “we’ll have a piece of that”. Whether it’s the footballing style, the “moneyball” approach to recruitment or whatever. This can lead as we’ve seen recently, to the great majority of teams playing a very similar style of football and tactics. Something new which proves successful on the pitch will come along (a more direct team) or a new transfer model (think Allardyce at Bolton) then other clubs will try and emulate that.


- Will the current process merge into a new process? Always. Bloom’s project/vision for the club didn’t finish with us building the Amex and settling into a lifetime in the Championship. After promotion, it didn’t end with us fighting off relegation every season. After consolidating our place in the PL, there was a next stage - Europe. We’ll be trying to emulate that again.

- Did we pay anything for it? I don’t understand this.

- If we didn’t have the current process, would we have another one? Yes, obviously.

- Wht are the consequences if we have no process? Just look around the failed and failing clubs with much bigger reputations, histories and fan bases than us. Look at Manchester United, Everton, Leeds, Sheffield Wednesday and the rest. They have no identity, no clearly defined way of operating in order to bring success on and off the field. They chop and change managers, backroom staff, sign players willy nilly with no real plan as to how they’ll maintain/develop their ability and value.

 

[5Ways Gull]

Continuous Improvement innit.

 

[AmexRuislip]

Let's all pause for a FIFA styleeee acclamation

 

[Nitram]

On past evidence I’m suspicious

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

I’ll take this one.

- What is it? A process in a football sense is putting into action a long-term plan on and off the field in order to achieve desired objectives, such as achieving a targeted league position, winning a specific competition, or focusing on a philosophy to achieve the above goals (such as building a young team, developing them with top level experience).

- When did it start? Bloom’s project started when he took the reins, developing and funding the building the Amex, the Elite Performance Centre and targeting the Premier League. Hürzeler’s project started when he was appointed manager.

- When is it planned to finish? Either when the targets are achieved, whatever they are (I’d assume they are based on league finishes primarily) or the manager is replaced which can happen for several reasons.

- What follows the conclusion of the current process? A new process.

- Has our process been tried by any other clubs? Yep, lots. Clubs see the success of a particular way of operating and think “we’ll have a piece of that”. Whether it’s the footballing style, the “moneyball” approach to recruitment or whatever. This can lead as we’ve seen recently, to the great majority of teams playing a very similar style of football and tactics. Something new which proves successful on the pitch will come along (a more direct team) or a new transfer model (think Allardyce at Bolton) then other clubs will try and emulate that.


- Will the current process merge into a new process? Always. Bloom’s project/vision for the club didn’t finish with us building the Amex and settling into a lifetime in the Championship. After promotion, it didn’t end with us fighting off relegation every season. After consolidating our place in the PL, there was a next stage - Europe. We’ll be trying to emulate that again.

- Did we pay anything for it? I don’t understand this.

- If we didn’t have the current process, would we have another one? Yes, obviously.

- Wht are the consequences if we have no process? Just look around the failed and failing clubs with much bigger reputations, histories and fan bases than us. Look at Manchester United, Everton, Leeds, Sheffield Wednesday and the rest. They have no identity, no clearly defined way of operating in order to bring success on and off the field. They chop and change managers, backroom staff, sign players willy nilly with no real plan as to how they’ll maintain/develop their ability and value.

Well done. I do hope you used a good dollop of AI in order to make this explanation to the patiently-challenged amongst us without wasting too much of your own time.

 

[jcdenton08]

Well done. I do hope you used a good dollop of AI in order to make this explanation to the patiently-challenged amongst us without wasting too much of your own time.

It was a little project over my morning coffee!

 

[METALMICKY]

I am curious.
- What is it?
- When did it start?
- When is it planned to finish?
- What follows the conclusion of the current process?
- Has our process been tried by any other clubs?
- Will the current process merge into a new process?
- Did we pay anything for it?
- If we didn’t have the current process, would we have another one?
- Wht are the consequences if we have no process?

Hang onI need to process that question for a minute

 

[Anger]

Process - A series of actions or steps to achieve a particular end.

Processed - Has gone through a process or procedure.

To achieve the latter, you have to go through and complete the former.

I think we know where we are in that process.