The Premier League Draft.

[Guy Fawkes]

[MENTION=17389]DarrenFreemansPerm[/MENTION] you're up for your final pick

 

[stripeyshark]

Excited about the voting now I have my 16.

 

[Hamilton]

Who had a premier league career of just 12 games over 4 seasons

Yep. Not bad to warm the bench hey?

Pique on my bench!

 

[stripeyshark]

Interesting call for when it comes to voting [MENTION=225]Hamilton[/MENTION]

I think you have one pick left?

 

[Hamilton]

Here's one from leftfield. Well, from Oldham in fact.

At right back.

Gunnar Halle

 

[Hamilton]

Is [MENTION=6505]Foolg[/MENTION] after me, or am I way out of step?

 

[The_Viper]

DOH!

Thought I had 2 picks left, derp. I'm gonna have to put a defender on my bench as opposed to a second goalkeeper then, because I need that cover.

A man who at 31 is making a name for himself as one of the best form current center halves in the Prem, taking Southampton to a genuine challenge for 4th place.

Jose Fonte

 

[Guy Fawkes]

Interesting call for when it comes to voting Hamilton

Yes it will be very interesting to see if those voting actually base it on what they have achieved in the PL (as this is supposed to be) or vote for teams with players based on the reputations built from their time playing in other leagues and not really having an impact on the PL when they were there.

For example John O'Shea with 5 PL titles and over 350 appearances vs Gerard Pique with 12 PL appearances - will the name or the achievements win over voters, a hard one to call

 

[DarrenFreemansPerm]

I'll add some defensive cover in the shape of John Scales.

 

[stripeyshark]

Yes it will be very interesting to see if those voting actually base it on what they have achieved in the PL (as this is supposed to be) or vote for teams with players based on the reputations built from their time playing in other leagues and not really having an impact on the PL when they were there.

For example John O'Shea with 5 PL titles and over 350 appearances vs Gerard Pique with 12 PL appearances - will the name or the achievements win over voters, a hard one to call

From the John O'Shea example comes another dilemma too. Do you vote for an OK player who has won more titles or one that has been outstanding for his teams that haven't neccesarily been as successful. For example, I would say Steven Gerrard is better than Anderson, but the latter has 4 more PL titles.

 

[DarrenFreemansPerm]

From the John O'Shea example comes another dilemma too. Do you vote for an OK player who has won more titles or one that has been outstanding for his teams that haven't neccesarily been as successful. For example, I would say Steven Gerrard is better than Anderson, but the latter has 4 more PL titles.

I think it's just about being sensible when you vote, there'll be very few players that have been 'outstanding' over a period of time that will not receive suitable plaudits, take Le Tiss for example, won nothing but is pretty much the best midfielder in the draft, obviously he beats a chump like Anderson. O'Shea, whilst not necessarily being an outstanding player, has had a very long and succesful career in the PL.

 

[MattBackHome]

take Le Tiss for example, won nothing but is pretty much the best midfielder in the draft

Damn straight. I take it I can rely on your vote then?

 

[Guy Fawkes]

[MENTION=21578]Worthingite[/MENTION] you're turn to complete your team

 

[stripeyshark]

I think it's just about being sensible when you vote, there'll be very few players that have been 'outstanding' over a period of time that will not receive suitable plaudits, take Le Tiss for example, won nothing but is pretty much the best midfielder in the draft, obviously he beats a chump like Anderson. O'Shea, whilst not necessarily being an outstanding player, has had a very long and succesful career in the PL.

John O'Shea is a decent player, but he reminded me of all the average players the United banner has carried to titles over the years.

 

[Guy Fawkes]

John O'Shea is a decent player, but he reminded me of all the average players the United banner has carried to titles over the years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_O'Shea

Season League Cup League Cup Europe Other[nb 1] Total
Apps Goals Apps Goals Apps Goals Apps Goals Apps Goals Apps Goals
2002–03 = 32 0 1 0 3 0 16 0 0 0 52 0
2003–04 = 33 2 6 0 2 0 7 0 1 0 49 2
2004–05 = 23 2 4 1 4 0 5 0 1 0 37 3
2005–06 = 34 1 2 0 4 1 7 0 0 0 47 2
2006–07 = 32 4 5 0 1 0 11 1 0 0 49 5
2007–08 = 28 0 2 0 1 0 6 0 1 0 38 0
2008–09 = 30 0 4 0 6 1 12 1 2 0 54 2
2009–10 = 15 1 0 0 0 0 2 0 1 0 18 1
2010–11 = 20 0 4 0 1 0 6 0 1 0 32 0

He played most of the games for United nearly every season he was there. Hardly a bit player.

Some of the other choices were (Pique had 3 games one season and then 9 games 2 seasons later for a total of 12 PL games. Kuszczak had would be a more appropriate example, playing 6, 9, 4, 8 and 5 games = 32 appearances over 5 seasons and getting 4 Premier League titles, 2 league cups & a Champions League title in that time)

 

[stripeyshark]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_O'Shea

Season League Cup League Cup Europe Other[nb 1] Total
Apps Goals Apps Goals Apps Goals Apps Goals Apps Goals Apps Goals
2002–03 = 32 0 1 0 3 0 16 0 0 0 52 0
2003–04 = 33 2 6 0 2 0 7 0 1 0 49 2
2004–05 = 23 2 4 1 4 0 5 0 1 0 37 3
2005–06 = 34 1 2 0 4 1 7 0 0 0 47 2
2006–07 = 32 4 5 0 1 0 11 1 0 0 49 5
2007–08 = 28 0 2 0 1 0 6 0 1 0 38 0
2008–09 = 30 0 4 0 6 1 12 1 2 0 54 2
2009–10 = 15 1 0 0 0 0 2 0 1 0 18 1
2010–11 = 20 0 4 0 1 0 6 0 1 0 32 0

He played most of the games for United nearly every season he was there. Hardly a bit player.

Some of the other choices were (Pique had 3 games one season and then 9 games 2 seasons later for a total of 12 PL games. Kuszczak had would be a more appropriate example, playing 6, 9, 4, 8 and 5 games = 32 appearances over 5 seasons and getting 4 Premier League titles, 2 league cups & a Champions League title in that time)

I said John O'Shea is a decent player. However he reminded me of players who really have played small parts in successful seasons. Anderson was my example.

 

[Guy Fawkes]

I said John O'Shea is a decent player. However he reminded me of players who really have played small parts in successful seasons. Anderson was my example.

Basically an under-rated player then

 

[stripeyshark]

Basically an under-rated player then

Is he one of your picks? Haha. John O'Shea has had a good career. Him and Wes Brown have made a good move going to Sunderland. Again, I'd have O'Shea over a lot of defenders drafted. Will be interesting to see everyone's teams and to also see who has made the elevens from picks 12 to 16.

 

[Worthingite]

From the looks of it, it's time to make my last pick. What a brilliant thread this has been. Cheers to [MENTION=15934]Rohana[/MENTION] and [MENTION=8619]Guy Fawkes[/MENTION] for putting it together and keeping it so well updated.

Anyway, I was going to go for a GK, but to be fair Seaman is about as solid as they come. So I'm going to put some last minute midfield rockery into the side, and was promoted with Southampton. My last pick is Morgan Schneiderlin.
[MENTION=15934]Rohana[/MENTION], time for your last throw of the dice

 

[Gazwag]

This game is great when people are arguing over players like O'Shea