[Albion] The Potter in/out thread

[ozzygull]

Fence!
Up side, Most of the players know him and should find it easy to adapt. He knows the club and still lives in the area.
Down side. For me personally was his snide comments about "if he wanted an easy life he would have stayed at Brighton" and the "History lesson"

I guess it is if TB thinks this would be a good move, then I trust his judgment. But I would not feel comfortable clapping his return.

 

[gripper stebson]

I can already picture the graphic announcing it. Potter stands arms folded with the caption... UNFINISHED BUSINESS.

 

[Bodian]

Across his whole time with us, or just at the start of 22/23 season? It CANNOT be the former, Shirley?

Looks like just the last seven games!

 

[Johnny RoastBeef]

Across his whole time with us, or just at the start of 22/23 season? It CANNOT be the former, Shirley?

I got the Potter stats from here.

Brighton under De Zerbi - how have things changed?

Brighton under De Zerbi - how have things changed?

www.bbc.co.uk

it says he averaged 2 goals game, but when he left we were averaging 1.83, so I think it must be across his whole time here.

Edit: or maybe not. see post #23

 

[MJsGhost]

Looks like just the last seven games!

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That makes more sense.

Averaging 2 goals for and 0.7 goals against across his whole tenure would suggest a title or two

 

[GT49er]

A covid era blast from the past that you hoped you'd never see on NSC again...its the Potter in/out poll.

What do you mean, a blast from the Covid era that we hoped never to wee on NSC again? It's a blast from earlier this week that we never needed to see! Will suggest a merger (and give a thumbs up to anyone requesting a merger, then use the ignore thread function.

 

[Is it PotG?]

 

[GT49er]

I've merged at least three Potter threads. I've no idea what will happen to the poll on this one versus the poll on the new manager thread if I merge this but I will close it if it just drags up exactly the same arguments, meaning you can vote but not post.

McKenna isn't the only other candidate with his own threads, but the Potter ones were growing like Topsy and therefore simpler (and more necessary) to merge into one.

Any new ones will be deleted instead, unless we actually do reappoint him, in which case it would demand a specific thread.

Yes, merge away! Fill yer boots!

 

[tstanbur]

That makes more sense.

Averaging 2 goals for and 0.7 goals against across his whole tenure would suggest a title or two

We didn't average scoring 2 a game but xG was quite close to 2 which shows we created lots of good chances.

I posted the below copy and paste as a reply on the McKenna thread but is far more relevant here:

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The link below has our "xG per 90" stats by season which overwhelmingly shows

a) the massive improvement in xG in Potter's time compared to Hughton
b) how poor our finishing was under Potter compared to how many good chances we created:
c) RDZ did then improve the xG further but at the expense of defence

17/18 : 1.08 (17th in the xG table, first season in the PL)
18/19 : 0.90 (20th, bottom, Hughton sacked)
19/20: 1.53 (8th, Potter's first season)
20/21: 1.63 (7th,)
21/22: 1.58 (7th)
22/23: 2 (3rd, Potter leaves after 6 games RDZ takes over)
23/24 (1.64, 6th)

Premier League xG (Expected Goals) | FootyStats

Expected Goals data for the England Premier League - including xG, xG Against (Conceded), and xG at home and away. Stats use advanced xG modelling for the Premier League.

footystats.org

 

[Weststander]

A bit of mischief.
Under Potter we scored an average of 2 goals per game. Under De Zerbi it was 1.89 in his first season and 1.44 the second.
When Potter left after 6 games in the 22/23 season we were 4th on 13 points. It took De Zerbi a further 11 games to record as many points.
Potter's points at the start of that season were the difference between Europe and a mid-table finish.
Under De Zerbi we conceded an average of 1.39 goals per game in his first season and 1.63 the second. Under Potter it was 0.7.

You’ve failed to mention the colossal never winning at home runs, with a dearth of goals (the unlucky, hit the woodwork, excuse) and heading for relegation until Covid saved us.

 

[Weststander]

We didn't average scoring 2 a game but xG was quite close to 2 which shows we created lots of good chances.

I posted the below copy and paste as a reply on the McKenna thread but is far more relevant here:

-----------------------------------------------------------------------
The link below has our "xG per 90" stats by season which overwhelmingly shows

a) the massive improvement in xG in Potter's time compared to Hughton
b) how poor our finishing was under Potter compared to how many good chances we created:
c) RDZ did then improve the xG further but at the expense of defence

17/18 : 1.08 (17th in the xG table, first season in the PL)
18/19 : 0.90 (20th, bottom, Hughton sacked)
19/20: 1.53 (8th, Potter's first season)
20/21: 1.63 (7th,)
21/22: 1.58 (7th)
22/23: 2 (3rd, Potter leaves after 6 games RDZ takes over)
23/24 (1.64, 6th)

Premier League xG (Expected Goals) | FootyStats

Expected Goals data for the England Premier League - including xG, xG Against (Conceded), and xG at home and away. Stats use advanced xG modelling for the Premier League.

footystats.org

We (apologists) were roundly laughed at for being obsessed with xG. As we lost on repeat.

 

[El Presidente]

Suspect TB will not want to alienate the precious, entitled element of the fanbase by reappointing GP.

If he is the best candidate then appoint him. If people want someone who is less capable than GP to be appointed then fair enough.

 

[tstanbur]

You’ve failed to mention the colossal never winning at home runs, with a dearth of goals (the unlucky, hit the woodwork, excuse) and heading for relegation until Covid saved us.

Potter's bad runs were not as bad as the last few months of this season under RDZ where we were genuinely shocking in most games, even though we picked up a couple of scrappy wins.

Performances in the Potter bad runs were generally good and at least we created multiple chances to hit the woodwork etc.

Suppose it depends if you see the manager directly responsible for really bad finishing or not.

We (apologists) were roundly laughed at for being obsessed with xG. As we lost on repeat.

Not obsessed with it, just a useful way of showing we actually played well.

Bad results don't necessarily make a bad manager/team (e.g. Klopp losing 6 home PL games in a row).

TB knew this and as always it worked out for him by sticking with Potter.

 

[Mustafa II]

He would be a fantastic appointment. Relatively risk free. He's a top manager.

Wouldn't take much to win back the fans.

Would love him back here.

 

[GJN1]

Why is this even a thread? It's NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN.

Now, can I get back to hating Phil Spencer please?

 

[Ernest]

Terry says if Potter COMES back there will be the MOST massive PROTEST ever and we will GLUE ourselves to DICKS with a HUGE Potter OUT banner hanging from Terry's TALE

 

[rippleman]

I would be extremely surprised if Tony Bloom is the kind of fella who would give you a second chance to screw him over.

Never going to happen.

 

[Milano]

I just find it easier to Ignore Thread all these Potter threads. Nothing new to be said here

Ignoring it but also telling everyone you're ignoring it by commenting on it.......

 

[Milano]

I've gone no but only because he'd have no chance, not because he's a bad manager. The moment we lost a couple he'd be under attack. IMO rightly so, only a fool invites a cheat back into their bedroom.
I'd be amazed if either party wanted it anyway.

FWIW I think he'll be the next England manager.

 

[Ike and Tina Burner]

If he is the best candidate then appoint him. If people want someone who is less capable than GP to be appointed then fair enough.

I'd rather have Hyppia back than that teeth sucking geography teacher