Diego Napier
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- Mar 27, 2010
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Sakes, he doesn't get the final say, how many times does it need to be stated before it sinks in?
The position we are recruiting for is for that of first-team manager.
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Sakes, he doesn't get the final say, how many times does it need to be stated before it sinks in?
I wonder if OG had the same choice?
Bob!
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- Jul 5, 2003
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players are out of contract at the end of June
*Gullsworth*
My Hair is like his hair
Well that gives us a little longer to appoint someone then, we usually leave it all to the last minute.
Pevenseagull
meh
- Jul 20, 2003
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from the 'sticky', contracted 'til June, that said still no time for a new manager to have any input ..... then again there all on holiday so it doesn't make any difference
GOALKEEPERS CONTRACT END
Tomasz Kuszczak June 30 2014
Casper Ankergren June 30 2014
Peter Brezovan June 30 2014
DEFENDERS
Bruno Saltor June 30 2014
Inigo Calderon June 30 2014
Gordon Greer June 30 2015
Matthew Upson June 30 2014
Lewis Dunk June 30 2015
Stephen Ward Season-long loan
Adam Chicksen June 30 2016
Vitalijs Maksimenko June 30 2015
MIDFIELDERS
Keith Andrews Season-long loan
Rohan Ince June 30 2016
Kemy Agustien June 30 2015
Jake Forster-Caskey June 30 2015
Andrew Crofts June 30 2015
Andrea Orlandi June 30 2014
David Lopez June 30 2014
Dale Stephens June 30 2017
FORWARDS
Will Buckley June 30 2017
Will Hoskins June 30 2014
Jesse Lingard Loan until end of season
Kazenga LuaLua June 30 2014 (club has 1-Yr option)
Craig Mackail-Smith June 30 2015
Solomon March June 30 2018
David Rodriguez June 30 2014
Leonardo Ulloa June 30 2017
DEVELOPMENT SQUAD
Emil Asmundsson (MF) June 30 2015
Bradley Barry (LB) June 30 2014
Tom Dallison (CB) June 30 2015
Brennan Dickenson (FW) June 30 2014
Shamir Goodwin (FW) June 30 2015
Rob Hunt (LB) June 30 2014
Jeffrey Monakana (WG) June 30 2015
Glen Rea (CB) June 30 2014
Courtney Richards (HM) June 30 2014
Grant Smith (GK) June 30 2014
Josh Smith (GK) June 30 2015
Jesse Starkey (MF) June 30 2015
Christian Walton (GK) June 30 2016
somerset
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Its a figurative timeslot to allow released players to be paid over a period from the end of the season ( May) when they may be hunting for other clubs,.... yes?
Barnham Seagull
Yapton Actually
Oscar was the wrong man to employ last season. He is probably a very good coach and given the resources/talent could get a team playing a Barcelona style system.
Unfortunately for him he inherited a situation where the squad was pretty much decided when he joined with little left in the budget to add to it. January came, we sold three first team players and only signed one proper first team replacement (Stephens). He was not able to bring in players even thow we had received transfer fees and wages would have been freed up within the squad budget. This effectively castrated Oscar and he could see it would be impossible to play the way he wanted and be successful with the hand he was being dealt.
He has one way of playing and only one, what we needed was someone who would adapt our tactics to the players available not try and fit what we had into a system they wanted but did not have the right players for. This was Oscars failing but tbf he somehow managed to scrape us into 6th.
Surely the board did their homework on Garcia? Did they tell him yes we want to play like that and yes here is the resources to make it happen?
I hope the board have learnt from last season, hopefully whoever comes in will do so quickly and be able to shape the squad and bring in the players they want and players who want to play for the manager (of course within budget).
If the powers that be do the same as last summer we could be all here again or in January having the same discussion.
Let the manager have total control of transfers working with the scouting team and let them decide who is retained or not. Players play for the manager and money the club is secondary in most cases. Football is not like a business and we need to stop running on field matters as such (of course within an agreed budget, but by the manager).
Unfortunately for him he inherited a situation where the squad was pretty much decided when he joined with little left in the budget to add to it. January came, we sold three first team players and only signed one proper first team replacement (Stephens). He was not able to bring in players even thow we had received transfer fees and wages would have been freed up within the squad budget. This effectively castrated Oscar and he could see it would be impossible to play the way he wanted and be successful with the hand he was being dealt.
He has one way of playing and only one, what we needed was someone who would adapt our tactics to the players available not try and fit what we had into a system they wanted but did not have the right players for. This was Oscars failing but tbf he somehow managed to scrape us into 6th.
Surely the board did their homework on Garcia? Did they tell him yes we want to play like that and yes here is the resources to make it happen?
I hope the board have learnt from last season, hopefully whoever comes in will do so quickly and be able to shape the squad and bring in the players they want and players who want to play for the manager (of course within budget).
If the powers that be do the same as last summer we could be all here again or in January having the same discussion.
Let the manager have total control of transfers working with the scouting team and let them decide who is retained or not. Players play for the manager and money the club is secondary in most cases. Football is not like a business and we need to stop running on field matters as such (of course within an agreed budget, but by the manager).
somerset
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from the 'sticky', contracted 'til June, that said still no time for a new manager to have any input ..... then again there all on holiday so it doesn't make any difference
GOALKEEPERS CONTRACT END
Tomasz Kuszczak June 30 2014
Casper Ankergren June 30 2014
Peter Brezovan June 30 2014
DEFENDERS
Bruno Saltor June 30 2014
Inigo Calderon June 30 2014
Gordon Greer June 30 2015
Matthew Upson June 30 2014
Lewis Dunk June 30 2015
Stephen Ward Season-long loan
Adam Chicksen June 30 2016
Vitalijs Maksimenko June 30 2015
MIDFIELDERS
Keith Andrews Season-long loan
Rohan Ince June 30 2016
Kemy Agustien June 30 2015
Jake Forster-Caskey June 30 2015
Andrew Crofts June 30 2015
Andrea Orlandi June 30 2014
David Lopez June 30 2014
Dale Stephens June 30 2017
FORWARDS
Will Buckley June 30 2017
Will Hoskins June 30 2014
Jesse Lingard Loan until end of season
Kazenga LuaLua June 30 2014 (club has 1-Yr option)
Craig Mackail-Smith June 30 2015
Solomon March June 30 2018
David Rodriguez June 30 2014
Leonardo Ulloa June 30 2017
DEVELOPMENT SQUAD
Emil Asmundsson (MF) June 30 2015
Bradley Barry (LB) June 30 2014
Tom Dallison (CB) June 30 2015
Brennan Dickenson (FW) June 30 2014
Shamir Goodwin (FW) June 30 2015
Rob Hunt (LB) June 30 2014
Jeffrey Monakana (WG) June 30 2015
Glen Rea (CB) June 30 2014
Courtney Richards (HM) June 30 2014
Grant Smith (GK) June 30 2014
Josh Smith (GK) June 30 2015
Jesse Starkey (MF) June 30 2015
Christian Walton (GK) June 30 2016
Filter out the relevant players in this discussion,.... would make it easier to read.
The Truth
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The question should be what Paul Barbers role is, not the unnamed manager.
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GOALKEEPERS
Tomasz Kuszczak June 30 2014
Casper Ankergren June 30 2014
Peter Brezovan June 30 2014
DEFENDERS
Bruno Saltor June 30 2014
Inigo Calderon June 30 2014
Matthew Upson June 30 2014
MIDFIELDERS
Andrea Orlandi June 30 2014
David Lopez June 30 2014
FORWARDS
Will Hoskins June 30 2014
Kazenga LuaLua June 30 2014 (club has 1-Yr option)
David Rodriguez June 30 2014
DEVELOPMENT SQUAD
Bradley Barry (LB) June 30 2014
Brennan Dickenson (FW) June 30 2014
Rob Hunt (LB) June 30 2014
Glen Rea (CB) June 30 2014
Courtney Richards (HM) June 30 2014
Grant Smith (GK) June 30 2014
Some important decisions there... IMHO
somerset
New member
I suspect they were swung by the potential for Spanish youngsters from youth and B teams, on the cheap,..... obviously this didnt materialise for whatever reason.
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We all know exactly what Barber's role is. What is your point?
Marshy
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So does having a yes man mean we cant be successful then ?
somerset
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The Truth
Banned
What's his exact role?
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Don't their loans just expire? or do we have 'options' to sign any of them (not Andrews please!)?
somerset
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Yes, they do,... I added them just to illustrate the potential size of the rebuilding task if all or a lot of them ended up getting moved on.
Gritt23
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I think it's usual practise to tell players as soon as the season is over.
If you are releasing them, it gives them as long as possible to find a new employer for next season.
If you are offering them a new deal, it gives us a bit of time to negotiate a deal they will be happy to sign. If we left it to mid-June, I would imagine players we want to keep would have got itchy feet by then and would have their agent already lining up an alternative. Leaving them in limbo for a month or more, after the season ends won't endear the club to them at all.
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Indeed... especially as 6 or 7 of those have been in our starting line-up most weeks, and several more in the active first team squad.