The Political Response

[Eeyore]

Pardoxically I think that Boris' lack of concern about anything, and lack of focus, coupled with his willingness to delegate to others with skills but no responsibilty, rather than sit on the pot, straining till he's red in the face, is what we need right now.

My view too. I knew when he was elected PM that he wouldn't be running the show but delegating to those he thought knew better. Not a good situation normally, but right now it clearly has its merits.

 

[Beach Hut]

My view too. I knew when he was elected PM that he wouldn't be running the show but delegating to those he thought knew better. Not a good situation normally, but right now it clearly has its merits.

Same here, most people on NSC know my politics and never been a great fan of Boris however he is delegating what he doesn't know to expert advisors

 

[Weststander]

In the interest of balance, as a so-called lefty, I have been impressed with Rishi Sunak. As posted elsewhere, he doesn't need to work, he's prepared to take a job where Dominic Cummings could make him look a tit, and he is clearly there for the public good.

Boris seems largely content to let talented people get on with it, under Cumming's direction, which may actually be one of the smartest things he's ever done.

I still worry about the chief medic (as noted elsewhere) but he is smart enough to wind his neck in, I suspect.

Overall, I like the pragmatic approach that has been taken, and am encouraged by the steps that are being taken to protect different sectors of the vulnerable.

Don't get me wrong, I have a well-established disdain for Boris in particular, and the right wing agenda (removing the opportunities that rescued me from a future of working class drudgery) in general, but credit where it is due.

Meanwhile labour trudge on, manfully, towards a glorious leadership election. I actually posted way back when, WTF - what would labour do if there were a sudden national crisis? The answer is clear. Nothing. You can't **** about like this

So I will still never vote for the crafter buggers, but hats off to some of the tories.

In the interest of ..... chatting. I don’t think of your politics as being aligned with overseas agitator @JRG or ever angry and charmless Len McCluskey. Rather a centre-left democrat, happy with the majority of work by the Blair government. Pretty unique on NSC in that as a Labour voter you had the balls the condemn the incompetence of Corbyn, Lansman and their clique (some others just couldn’t bring themselves to do it .... despite Corbyn sealing 15 years of Tory/coalition rule).

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

In the interest of ..... chatting. I don’t think of your politics as being aligned with overseas agitator @JRG or ever angry and charmless Len McCluskey. Rather a centre-left democrat, happy with the majority of work by the Blair government. Pretty unique on NSC in that as a Labour voter you had the balls the condemn the incompetence of Corbyn, Lansman and their clique (some others just couldn’t bring themselves to do it .... despite Corbyn sealing 15 years of Tory/coalition rule).

How very kind. And in the interests of justifiable reciprocity, your take on things political has always struck me as evidence-driven, informed, insightful, unbiased and fair. With all that, you can tinge your take with whatever shade of the rainbow that your personal prejudice prefers. Mine is red, as you know.

Peculiarly, I was once called a 'red tory' on here by someone whose apparent careless disregard of his fellow man permits him to pretend to be a Socialist as part of his self-indulgent comedy persona. "**** you", I though, and put him on ignore. On occasion I see others giving him a twatting for an ill-judged bit of flippancy. Even Jim Davidson could be funny on occasion.

 

[Weststander]

How very kind. And in the interests of justifiable reciprocity, your take on things political has always struck me as evidence-driven, informed, insightful, unbiased and fair. With all that, you can tinge your take with whatever shade of the rainbow that your personal prejudice prefers. Mine is red, as you know.

Peculiarly, I was once called a 'red tory' on here by someone whose apparent careless disregard of his fellow man permits him to pretend to be a Socialist as part of his self-indulgent comedy persona. "**** you", I though, and put him on ignore. On occasion I see others giving him a twatting for an ill-judged bit of flippancy. Even Jim Davidson could be funny on occasion.

Strangely, all his political posts are vehemently bitchy against the Tories, although he was openly pro Brexit. Is it really a wind up, he’s actually right wing?

 

[Wozza]

In the interest of balance, as a so-called lefty, I have been impressed with Rishi Sunak. As posted elsewhere, he doesn't need to work, he's prepared to take a job where Dominic Cummings could make him look a tit, and he is clearly there for the public good.

Boris seems largely content to let talented people get on with it, under Cumming's direction, which may actually be one of the smartest things he's ever done.

I still worry about the chief medic (as noted elsewhere) but he is smart enough to wind his neck in, I suspect.

Overall, I like the pragmatic approach that has been taken, and am encouraged by the steps that are being taken to protect different sectors of the vulnerable.

Don't get me wrong, I have a well-established disdain for Boris in particular, and the right wing agenda (removing the opportunities that rescued me from a future of working class drudgery) in general, but credit where it is due.

Meanwhile labour trudge on, manfully, towards a glorious leadership election. I actually posted way back when, WTF - what would labour do if there were a sudden national crisis? The answer is clear. Nothing. You can't **** about like this

So I will still never vote for the crafter buggers, but hats off to some of the tories.

As someone on Twitter said, he's doing bloody well for a new boy.

"After three months at my new job, I'd only just learnt how to use the photocopier."

 

[drew]

Whilst it's reassuring to see the politicians setting aside party politics, you get the impression that in England we seem to be a day behind with regard to decision making!
First football can go ahead then a day later it get's called off. Schools close in NI and Scotland then we follow suit. Same with social distancing and now the pubs.

We'll see how it pans out as the situation deteriorates.

 

[PILTDOWN MAN]

Burnham is a truly decent bloke, he unintentionally comes out of this smelling of roses, with no petty party politics. Sadiq Khan has also been very mature and a team player. Even Sturgeon the same.

I think they’re all working closely with the government on literally saving lives and livelihoods. Class war saved for another time.

Bet Sturgeon bloody happy she's not got her independence now. Imagine her looking down at England and Wales paying wages, keeping businesses in business meanwhile in Scotland they're fighting over the last Irn-Bru can.

 

[Weststander]

Bet Sturgeon bloody happy she's not got her independence now. Imagine her looking down at England and Wales paying wages, keeping businesses in business meanwhile in Scotland they're fighting over the last Irn-Bru can.

To wash down a deep fried Mars Bar.

 

[Silverhatch]

Just weirdness of the whole situation: Brown & Labour tarred by 2008 financial crisis. Austerity & populism/Brexit laid at the door of Coalition/Tories. Now in 2020 the biggest direct fiscal/monetary bail out in history authorised set in motion by a populist/BJ led big majority Tory government. Extraordinarily interesting times.

 

[Bozza]

Those are some words...

‪“Now more than at any time in our history, we will be judged by our capacity for compassion. When this is over, and it will be over, we want to look back on this moment & remember the many small acts of kindness, done by us and to us”.‬

 

[Weststander]

Just weirdness of the whole situation: Brown & Labour tarred by 2008 financial crisis. Austerity & populism/Brexit laid at the door of Coalition/Tories. Now in 2020 the biggest direct fiscal/monetary bail out in history authorised set in motion by a populist/BJ led big majority Tory government. Extraordinarily interesting times.

Populism/Brexit also had a huge core vote from many millions of blue collar workers class, who twenty years ago would never have voted Tory. Wooed by a growing anti-EU sentiment and an incredibly effective campaign over 25 years by Farage. It went across the electorate, as we once known it. Corbyn, McDonnell and McCluskey had drummed into anyone that would listen that the EU is a Capitalist Club

[I voted Remain btw].

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Bet Sturgeon bloody happy she's not got her independence now. Imagine her looking down at England and Wales paying wages, keeping businesses in business meanwhile in Scotland they're fighting over the last Irn-Bru can.

They don’t have to pay to park at the hospitals (which doctors & health care workers do in England) nor any prescription.

 

[PILTDOWN MAN]

They don’t have to pay to park at the hospitals (which doctors & health care workers do in England) nor any prescription.

What's that got do with the government ensuring the majority of people will retain their jobs. Something Scotland would not stand a chance of doing if independent.

Also their record on health services is awful.

 

[Albion Dan]

Whilst it's reassuring to see the politicians setting aside party politics, you get the impression that in England we seem to be a day behind with regard to decision making!
First football can go ahead then a day later it get's called off. Schools close in NI and Scotland then we follow suit. Same with social distancing and now the pubs.

We'll see how it pans out as the situation deteriorates.

Indeed. I’m still baffled why we didn’t closer follow the approach of those Asian countries that had clearly got control of their curve very early on and what the drivers were.

 

[Is it PotG?]

Indeed. I’m still baffled why we didn’t closer follow the approach of those Asian countries that had clearly got control of their curve very early on and what the drivers were.

Personally I still think that China have just delayed a considerable second wave by locking everyone down.

I hope I'm wrong, and time will obviously tell.

 

[Albion Dan]

Personally I still think that China have just delayed a considerable second wave by locking everyone down.

I hope I'm wrong, and time will obviously tell.

Possibly but I was more alluding to the likes of Taiwan, Singapore, Japan etc. All counties that have experience of managing this type of event previously.

 

[RossyG]

 

[Beach Hut]

Would it not be easier to just have a counter with the number of deaths the Tories and their voters are responsible for by under-funding the NHS?

Poor, no mention of BREXIT

 

[RossyG]

Would it not be easier to just have a counter with the number of deaths the Tories and their voters are responsible for by under-funding the NHS?

The NHS gets £1billion every three days. How much more does it need?