[News] The police.. and not the one with Sting in it

[Baldseagull]

This.

Reaction of the OB way over the top - but trouble not instigated by them.

Well, we don't know that do we. A Police Officer has a broken nose, but maybe that officer had instigated things.

 

[jcdenton08]

Well, we don't know that do we. A Police Officer has a broken nose, but maybe that officer had instigated things.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

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Seems a modern day Petrocelli:

Akhmed Yakoob, 36, has 200,000 followers on TikTok and regularly posts videos wearing Prada trainers, a glittering diamond watch, tinted gold-framed sunglasses and Gareth Southgate-like waistcoats.

The Lamborghini-loving father-of-four uses the platform to post polished clips in which he tells followers he is 'the best defence lawyer in the UK' and 'there is a defence for every offence.

Very odd (only its not, is it?) reporting, this.

Can either of you please explain what relevance the lawyer's political aspirations, choice of car, or questionable taste in fashion accessories has to his client's case against the violent police officer?

 

[Is it PotG?]

Very odd (only its not, is it?) reporting, this.

Can either of you please explain what relevance the lawyer's political aspirations, choice of car, or questionable taste in fashion accessories has to his client's case against the violent police officer?

Just building a complete picture. As Burnham so rightly said, this is not clear cut and due process needs to be allowed. His measured and calm approach needs to be admired in this instance.

 

[jcdenton08]

Very odd (only its not, is it?) reporting, this.

Can either of you please explain what relevance the lawyer's political aspirations, choice of car, or questionable taste in fashion accessories has to his client's case against the violent police officer?

I don’t know about that. I do know he got in hot water for some very questionable comments, which echoed those of fundamentalist Islamists.

Birmingham candidate sorry after remarks labelled 'misogynistic' - BBC News

Akhmed Yakoob, who is standing for Ladywood, Birmingham, says he is 'mortified' by the remarks.

www.bbc.co.uk

There were also anecdotal allegations of this gentleman attempting to vote tamper at polling stations on election day.



Unrelated to his position as solicitor in this case, but noteworthy as to his character.

 

[Lenny Rider]

This is an excellent way of trying to justify his actions without actually doing so. They are trained to deal with incidents. Do you think they are training to give kicks to the head once people are down on the ground? Police know what they sign up for. I couldn’t do it. It is all about being proportionate. Revenge beatings have no place.

I'm not justifying his actions at all, I'm just suggesting there might be a mental health angle here, not in anyway an excuse, but it would be a factor.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

Just building a complete picture. As Burnham so rightly said, this is not clear cut and due process needs to be allowed. His measured and calm approach needs to be admired in this instance.

Complete picture of WHAT? The lawyer's choice of WATCH?

Burnham's stance is spot on. As it very often is.

 

[Is it PotG?]

Complete picture of WHAT? The lawyer's choice of WATCH?

Burnham's stance is spot on. As it very often is.

A complete picture of everyone involved.

I saw it on the telly, any case is built-up brick by brick so that all information is available to all parties.

 

[Boroseagull]

Presumably whoever uploaded the footage. Selective editing is extremely common in creating a narrative; a person trying to create a sympathetic narrative is going to limit a 5 minute video down to 10 seconds, if it shows the belligerents in the most negative possible light.

I have seen a 47 sec phone video that is unedited and it certainly shows more than the pixilated clip shown on TV.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

A complete picture of everyone involved.

I saw it on the telly, any case is built-up brick by brick so that all information is available to all parties.

Sorry - this is pathetic. The LAWYER'S fashion choices are not one of those 'bricks'. He is not a subject of this investigation.

The media reporting this might as well just come out and say that dark people with nice things are not to be trusted.

 

[Justice]

If your at the Airport, and a policeman tells you to get down, then you get down! If you fail to do so on the 2nd, 3rd, 4th time of being asked, then expect to be taken down by as much force as necessary.

The police are here to protect and serve the general public. If they suspect even the slightest chance of a serious situation occurring, then I want a strong response… specially at an airport.

Closer to home. Last week, a bloke on a moped with “L plates“ decided it was acceptable to weave in and out of traffic at a junction.
He very nearly took out a chap with his dog and would have probably of killed or seriously injured them.


Why the f**k are we putting up with this sort of behaviour from the public… and why are the police so weak?

I’ll tell you why. It’s because every-time some incident occurs and the police attend, they have cameras thrust in their faces.

Every move is scrutinised, monitored and analysed…. by the “know all” public, media and the top brass in the police organisation who appear to be more concerned about career progress / stats then affirming some hard line policing.

Personally, I think phones/video evidence should be confiscated at the time or it to be a crime to release footage before informing the police… until ALL the facts are known.

Without a strong police and justice system we’re all be screwed, and I think people should remember this.

If the police are doing their job properly they should have no problem being filmed.

That poor girl at Clapham Common followed your advice do what the police tell you to do without question and look what happened to her.

 

[pocketseagull]

He actually says "I think racism played a part "
So he has no proof and certainly wasn't there was he.

Just a couple of days ago you were quick to agree that the soldier stabbing was '100% Terrorism related' with zero evidence.

 

[Napper]

One thing for sure is the medias agendas are whipping everyone up as always

 

[Baldseagull]

I'm not justifying his actions at all, I'm just suggesting there might be a mental health angle here, not in anyway an excuse, but it would be a factor.

If the guy that allegedly broke an Officers nose had mental health issues, would that make the kicking coppers actions worse?

 

[Baldseagull]

If your at the Airport, and a policeman tells you to get down, then you get down! If you fail to do so on the 2nd, 3rd, 4th time of being asked, then expect to be taken down by as much force as necessary.

Without a strong police and justice system we’re all be screwed, and I think people should remember this.

Having watched the video, I think I am less likely to get down on the floor, if instructed by Police, can't stamp on my head if I am stood up.

We do need Police, and they need to be accountable under the justice system too.

 

[jcdenton08]

Having watched the video, I think I am less likely to get down on the floor, if instructed by Police, can't stamp on my head if I am stood up.

We do need Police, and they need to be accountable under the justice system too.

Well if they tell you to get down in an airport and you don’t, you’ll still end up on the floor but as a result of being tased. I wouldn’t recommend this.

 

[LamieRobertson]

Having watched the video, I think I am less likely to get down on the floor, if instructed by Police, can't stamp on my head if I am stood up.

We do need Police, and they need to be accountable under the justice system too.

Watched all the action or just ‘that’ clip……I imagine as you are a sensible chap you probably won’t take on the police …break a nose or try and take a firearm off them either

 

[Baldseagull]

Well if they tell you to get down in an airport and you don’t, you’ll still end up on the floor but as a result of being tased. I wouldn’t recommend this.

Probably true, but if I don't think I have done anything wrong, I won't be going to the floor without question, or without trying to calm any anger being displayed first.

 

[Justice]

Reading the comments and this is all their own doing tbf, some members of the public don’t trust the police anymore.
If you are not sure about the demeanour of the OB if stopped you are in your right to call for their superior. This advice may of saved Sarah Everard.

 

[Wardy's twin]

I suggest you watch the 'clip' again then. The guy is on the ground, face down and the only person near him at that point looks like an female kneeling down. There is no officer within arms reach let alone close enough to grab a weapon. We know that 3 female officers were attacked prior to this and at that point you would expect other officers to use proportionate force to get the situation under control. Stamping on someone's head is not proportionate.

The Police have a very tough job to do and that is why those that do it need to be in control of themselves at all times. Take away the kick and the stamp, then public opinion would almost certainly be against the man on the floor and what he is alleged to have done to the female officers. The actions of this one officer now overshadow that and it seems have now been a catalyst for potential unrest in the area.

At the end of the day a policeman has seen a colleague hurt, yes he should control his emotions but he is a human being and might be responding emotionally rather than as thug.

Take away the kick and the stamp - then there would be no reporting just a normal day in the life of policewoman injured in the line of duty.

Don't get me wrong he over stepped a mark but various people labelling him as a thug and more seriously a racist need to wait to the full story comes out rather than react to a clip which covers very little of the total incident.

Just to position these comments I am not a big fan of police. I have had very few person interactions and none criminal (except when my car was broken into) but found them hard to work with probably because they see everyone as the enemy. If a policeman at an airport told me to get down then i would have been on the floor pretty quickly.

Agree, people seem to have forgotten the wider incident.