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[Albion] The Pascal Gross mystery
- Thread starter Sarisbury Seagull
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Blue Valkyrie
Not seen such Bravery!
Billy the Fish
Technocrat
He’s a very clever player - most of the time lets the ball do the moving, rather than himself. I actually think the problem is Murray - great goal scorer, but as well know, lack of pace. I don’t think you can play Gross and Murray in the same team. Still love Pascal.
agreed.
Moshe Gariani
Well-known member
- Mar 10, 2005
- 12,203
Congratulations to OP on a brilliant parody NSC thread.
Assuming we don't keep a clean sheet at Old Trafford next week can someone start one about the limitations of Dunk and Duffy...?
Assuming we don't keep a clean sheet at Old Trafford next week can someone start one about the limitations of Dunk and Duffy...?
I thought yesterday was one of his better games and he was beginning to look up to speed. Shame about the penalty giveaway but a lot of the time he was covering for players out of position. I reckon he'll bag a few assists/goals in the few games after Man Utd if he plays like he did yesterday.
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- #28
Oh do behave, it’s not scapegoating, I’m not blaming him for anything, just questioning why he’s clearly not showing anywhere near the same form he showed last year. It’s a legitimate question to ask about an Albion player on an Albion forum.
As I said, I thought he was great last year and has been nowhere near that level this so wondering why. Plenty of fans are saying the same thing.
Albion Dan
Banned
Congratulations to Moshe Gariani for the most predictable parody NSC reply to any post ever daring to question a players form or right to a first team place.
darkwolf666
Well-known member
Stop talking shit and look at the facts, how many games did the two play together last season, rather successfully!
Fans don’t always appreciate a players contribution unless he is spraying 40 yard passes all over the pitch.
Chris Hughton, who I believe understands more about how he wants his team to play, picks him, that’s good enough for me.
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Perkino
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- Dec 11, 2009
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Last season Gross and Murray shone and were involved in the majority of our attacking moves as the other 8 players were sent out to defend first then support in attacks if they could.
This season shows a rise in quality from many of the others and has allowed us to adapt the formation, pushing a greater emphasis on attack. This means Gross has less space to operate in and cause problems.
10 years ago 2 of the best English CM players were Lampard and Gerrard, both excellent at capitalising on the space left between Defence and Midfield. When played together for England the simply got in each other's way and we never saw the best of them. Ironically also the space that Rooney regularly dropped into to be so affective. Gross thrived in a 4-4-1-1 as he has the quality to create a final ball when given the time
This season shows a rise in quality from many of the others and has allowed us to adapt the formation, pushing a greater emphasis on attack. This means Gross has less space to operate in and cause problems.
10 years ago 2 of the best English CM players were Lampard and Gerrard, both excellent at capitalising on the space left between Defence and Midfield. When played together for England the simply got in each other's way and we never saw the best of them. Ironically also the space that Rooney regularly dropped into to be so affective. Gross thrived in a 4-4-1-1 as he has the quality to create a final ball when given the time
Kneon Light
Well-known member
Thought he was good yesterday - most of our attacks came through him.
Great ball to Murray who should have done better - in the right place for shot blocked by Fabinho.
Stupid challenge for penalty but he was one of the players I thought might make something happen for us.
This season he is only behind March in terms of assists (despite being out for so long)
Great ball to Murray who should have done better - in the right place for shot blocked by Fabinho.
Stupid challenge for penalty but he was one of the players I thought might make something happen for us.
This season he is only behind March in terms of assists (despite being out for so long)
Moshe Gariani
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- Mar 10, 2005
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Thanks. Congratulations to Albion Dan on classic execution of the miserablists' goto justification for negativity.
Perfect like a Pascal Gross turn and cross.
He has one assist this season, which was from the corner at West Ham...
Albion Dan
Banned
Sorry. I must have confused this forum for a space since the mid 90’s for fans to debate things such as a players form and performance level during a football match. My bad. Best we all just refuse to discuss football at all (unless completely positive) and concentrate on the merits of Brexit.
I don't think this is a question of scapegoating. His form does seem to have dipped. It's reasonable to discuss if this is him, the system or if there are better options.
Blues Rock DJ
New member
when is Gross going to last the full 90 minutes ?
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- #39
No that won’t be necessary because Dunk and Duffy have been brilliant all season. Gross has been poor all season, hence the thread. Thanks for the response though.
Weststander
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But then this discussion was extended to: Gross wasn’t all that last season. Comedy gold.