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Pogue Mahone

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When is Froomes time trial, do they set out in reverse order?

Riders to watch

31 Stephen Cummings (GBr) Dimension Data 14:20:00
54 Vasil Kiryienka (Blr) Team Sky 14:43:00
67 Tony Martin (Ger) Katusha-Alpecin 14:56:00
88 Stefan Küng (Sui) BMC Racing Team 15:17:00
108 Jonathan Castroviejo (Esp) Movistar Team 15:37:00
110 Michal Kwiatkowski (Pol) Team Sky 15:39:00
130 Primoz Roglic (Slo) Team LottoNl-Jumbo 15:59:00
158 Alberto Contador (Esp) Trek-Segafredo 16:46:00
159 Warren Barguil (Fra) Team Sunweb 16:48:00
160 Louis Meintjes (RSA) UAE Team Emirates 16:50:00
161 Simon Yates (GBr) Orica-Scott 16:52:00
162 Daniel Martin (Irl) Quick-Step Floors 16:54:00
163 Fabio Aru (Ita) Astana Pro Team 16:56:00
164 Mikel Landa (Esp) Team Sky 16:58:00
165 Rigoberto Uran (Col) Cannondale-Drapac 17:00:00
166 Romain Bardet (Fra) AG2R La Mondiale 17:02:00
167 Christopher Froome (GBr) Team Sky 17:04:00


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Could be French time an hour ahead

It's French time though. Froome is just setting off.
 












Triggaaar

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**** you France
 




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I suggest the nation who's football fans boo every other national anthem doesn't get too pious.
 


Weststander

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I suggest the nation who's football fans boo every other national anthem doesn't get too pious.

Most countries have xenophobic morons, whether it be a few thousand England fans in Germany or French wishing Froome ill.

Still needs to be mentioned. The ITV4 team have at times, rather than going for a BBC style sugar coating.
 






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Most countries have xenophobic morons, whether it be a few thousand England fans in Germany or French wishing Froome ill.

Still needs to be mentioned. The ITV4 team have at times, rather than going for a BBC style sugar coating.

I personally don't want to give xenophobic morons the time of day, let alone unnecessarily create a storm in a bidon in the national media.

Each to there own.
 


Pogue Mahone

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Isn't it more about hating Team Sky rather than Froome himself.

Definitely. Cav, Cummings and Millar all enjoyed positive support - as did Wiggo before the Sky hatred took hold.

Sky's dominance is similar to that of US Postal Service/Discovery in the Armstrong era. They were hated, and always suspected of doping, and we all know how that turned out.

And stories of unexplained packages and lost paperwork are not going to allay suspicions that things are not as they should be.
 


Triggaaar

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I suggest the nation who's football fans boo every other national anthem doesn't get too pious.
What? I've not noticed England being worse than other countries when national anthems are played.

Isn't it more about hating Team Sky rather than Froome himself.
I didn't notice them booing Mikel Landa. And talking of Landa, he deserved a place on the podium. Not that I'd have wanted Bardet to miss out, but Landa has been unbelievable and would have easily been up there if he hadn't been sacrificing himself for Chris.
 




Triggaaar

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Definitely. Cav, Cummings and Millar all enjoyed positive support
They didn't win the Tour. And Wiggo didn't come back after winning it. Froome is a great rider, and IMO deserves some respect.

Sky's dominance is similar to that of US Postal Service/Discovery in the Armstrong era. They were hated, and always suspected of doping, and we all know how that turned out.
Yeah, it turned out that not only were they all doping, so were all of their rivals. Chris has been just a few seconds ahead of his rivals all tour, there have been no superhuman mountain climes or any reason to suspect him of doping.

And stories of unexplained packages and lost paperwork are not going to allay suspicions that things are not as they should be.
That was some time ago and not involving Froome. Not like the clean and respected Contador eh :rolleyes:
 


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Isn't it more about hating Team Sky rather than Froome himself.
Which is why I expect Sky to sign one of the new breed of Frenchie's to begin the process of preparing him to win Le Tour.
 


Triggaaar

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Which is why I expect Sky to sign one of the new breed of Frenchie's to begin the process of preparing him to win Le Tour.
Frenchie's what?

Just have some Frenchies as domestiques :)
 


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Isn't it more about hating Team Sky rather than Froome himself.

Exactly this.


If I was there I'd have to restrain myself not to join in with the booing to be honest.

I quite like Froome. He's got cojones and is a very well rounded rider, exciting even on the right set of circumstances. But Sky are fast killing cycling a bit like they killed football for me. Seeing a rider of Kwiat's ability reduced to super Dom status is heartbreaking. Thank God the Yates brothers, and eventually Cummings haven't been reduced to Skybots.

P.S Yes I know Kwiat won Strade Bianche and MSR this year, but just let me indulge the rant for a bit.
 




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Frenchie's what?

Just have some Frenchies as domestiques :)
The French youngsters are showing plenty of potential, I think Sky will snap one or two of up, as potential long term replacements for Froome.
With the added bonus of instantly winning hearts and minds, across the channel.

Exactly this.


If I was there I'd have to restrain myself not to join in with the booing to be honest.

I quite like Froome. He's got cojones and is a very well rounded rider, exciting even on the right set of circumstances. But Sky are fast killing cycling a bit like they killed football for me. Seeing a rider of Kwiat's ability reduced to super Dom status is heartbreaking. Thank God the Yates brothers, and eventually Cummings haven't been reduced to Skybots.

P.S Yes I know Kwiat won Strade Bianche and MSR this year, but just let me indulge the rant for a bit.

Nobody forced (although the rather large payslip helps) Kwia into a Sky jersey.
Sky hardly blunted his 2017 palmares, what with brilliant rides to San Remo and Strade Bianche, and top 10's across the spring.

I don't know why you keep bemoaning Sky's 'super team' dominance, it's been a fact of life in cycling long before all their current riders were born.

No team has ever had (or paid big money for) a Tour favourite and said, 'crack on son, you're good enough to win this on your own'.
 


1234andcounting

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They didn't win the Tour. And Wiggo didn't come back after winning it. Froome is a great rider, and IMO deserves some respect.

I would say that the booing of Froome is a sign of respect. They know that he is unlikely to be beaten while he is still at his peak. I think it was Barry Hoban saying on the commentary earlier this week that they booed Merckx far more than they have ever booed Froome, and that Anquetil would get booed when he was racing Poulidor because they liked Poulidor more. Strange thing, the emotion that sport can generate.
 


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