mejonaNO12 aka riskit
Well-known member
They sell stuff to cut hair off your face.
It's weird the things people get worked up about.
It's weird the things people get worked up about.
Snowflakes
But they're not JUST a razor company. They have a privileged communications position, and they're using that position to promote (what I would consider to be) a positive message.My god, what a load of po-faced TWATTERY from Gillette. I'd no sooner take "life advice" from a razorblade company than I would take gardening tips from Kelloggs. Whats the bloody relevance ?
Look - you're a business set up to provide things that help scrape hair off blokes faces. If I wanted to be exposed to a load of vacuous, virtue-signalling DRECK thats trying to pass itself off as "wide words" then I'd go and peruse bloody Mumsnet, or Facebook. Just carry on making things we can cut ourselves with and spare us the fortune-cookie codswallop.
'kin ell.
.....and this advert won't make a scrap of difference to the ones that can't/won't work it out for themselves.Because most of us men do not need to be told what is acceptable behaviour, we should be able to work that out by ourselves (aware that some cannot seem to work this out of course).
No, but anyone who thinks the advert is pretty crap, or patronising, or stereotyping Is instantly pounced upon by some who are determined to see that as defending poor behaviour. I don't like the advert; I don't like men who abuse women (or children) either.Is anyone trying to defend the poor behaviour?
Yes, they are facts, but presented in a very particular way. Presuming your two women killed every week by their partners statistic applies to the UK, you could just as accurately say two out of 25 million (or thereabouts) men kill their partners every week. Still two too many, but it puts a whole different slant on it when you put it that way - that of course would not suit some agendas, so they slant it the other way. But not slanted? - my Aunt Fanny!It is not slanting statistics. They are facts. Undeniable facts.
Yes I have, but never been in one myself. So?I hope you've never witnessed domestic abuse nor been in an abusive relationship.
But they're not JUST a razor company. They have a privileged communications position, and they're using that position to promote (what I would consider to be) a positive message.
If you feel like it's irrelevant to you, then fine. But you know that it isn't irrelevant generally because of the statistics that have been shared earlier in this thread, and just knowing about the state of the world. Of course, they wouldn't dream of adopting a comms campaign that hurt their sales, but they don't NEED to do this either. And if they want to celebrate men challenging bullying and empowering their daughters, rather than just saying 'our products irritate your face less', good luck to 'em.
Well, they are to me.
I'll admit I've always had a very jaundiced view of adverts anyway. I'm a notorious flicker, both TV and radio, I find them all tedious in the extreme and will go out of my way to try to avoid them as much as poss. When the likes of Gillette start preaching "life messages" to us as well, then my eyes are already rolling, and frankly I can't get hold of the remote fast enough. Hawk the damn razors around in commercial breaks by all means, its the way of the world and always will be. But I won't be watching, and I couldn't give a stuff about what they are trying to "celebrate" or "empower". Its bobbins.
This.judging by all the weird beards I thought most men had given up shaving
This.
I'm surprised Gillette hasn't gone down the pan by now.
I honestly feel like I'm an outcast when I go out because I don't have facial hair.
Yes, but it's not about you. I'm sure you turn over when adverts come on, and don't listen, and don't want Gillette preaching to you, etc. But the advert is slickly made and I suspect more than one person will have their perspective challenged. And if that's the case, it seems odd not to support it on the grounds that it doesn't do anything for you personally.Well, they are to me.
I'll admit I've always had a very jaundiced view of adverts anyway. I'm a notorious flicker, both TV and radio, I find them all tedious in the extreme and will go out of my way to try to avoid them as much as poss. When the likes of Gillette start preaching "life messages" to us as well, then my eyes are already rolling, and frankly I can't get hold of the remote fast enough. Hawk the damn razors around in commercial breaks by all means, its the way of the world and always will be. But I won't be watching, and I couldn't give a stuff about what they are trying to "celebrate" or "empower". Its bobbins.
Yes, but it's not about you. I'm sure you turn over when adverts come on, and don't listen, and don't want Gillette preaching to you, etc. But the advert is slickly made and I suspect more than one person will have their perspective challenged. And if that's the case, it seems odd not to support it on the grounds that it doesn't do anything for you personally.
My god, what a load of po-faced TWATTERY from Gillette. I'd no sooner take "life advice" from a razorblade company than I would take gardening tips from Kelloggs. Whats the bloody relevance ?
Look - you're a business set up to provide things that help scrape hair off blokes faces. If I wanted to be exposed to a load of vacuous, virtue-signalling DRECK thats trying to pass itself off as "wide words" then I'd go and peruse bloody Mumsnet, or Facebook. Just carry on making things we can cut ourselves with and spare us the fortune-cookie codswallop.
'kin ell.
Yes, but it's not about you. I'm sure you turn over when adverts come on, and don't listen, and don't want Gillette preaching to you, etc. But the advert is slickly made and I suspect more than one person will have their perspective challenged. And if that's the case, it seems odd not to support it on the grounds that it doesn't do anything for you personally.
I think I'll just accept that I'm not their "target audience" then, and move along.
I think the production is quite good.It's not slickly made though, it's manipulating a situation to make them money when they have absolutely no sincerity in the message they're throwing out there.
I think the production is quite good.
They at least have SOME sincerity in doing it, as they easily could not have. But even if they had none, I think that's irrelevant, because the EFFECT is positive. If you accept that, why oppose?
Yes, and I posted my response to that earlier, too. I take your point on the hypocrisy, though.I answered why I opposed in an earlier post.