[Football] The new England shirt

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hans kraay fan club

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£120!!!!!!

Yep, those prices are a disgrace!

What is an insult is the price. If there is anything we should truly get angry about, it’s that. Wasn’t the point of global supply chains to make things cheaper at the trivial expense of exploiting the impoverished and ruining the climate?

One Hundred and Twenty quid for a football top.

No wonder they can afford to luzz 7 pound a pint lagers at Box Park if they are wearing those.

£124.99 for a football shirt is worth getting upset about though. I had no idea that's what those shirts cost.

This is the big scandal IMHO, especially in a cost of living crisis

The fact it annoys these people would probably make me buy one if it didn't cost around 120 quid.

Beyond criminal

The real scandal is the price. In a cost of living crisis, no doubt many thousands of parents will be inundated with requests to shell out over £100 for these shirts in a tournament year.
This same thing comes up with EVERY SINGLE England kit launch. Every. Single. Time.

The headline price of £120+ is for the player-spec shirt, that literally NOBODY buys.

The actual replica shirts, that everyone will buy from Sports Direct will be about £65 - like every other football shirt.

:shrug:
 


Bozza

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This same thing comes up with EVERY SINGLE England kit launch. Every. Single. Time.

The headline price of £120+ is for the player-spec shirt, that literally NOBODY buys.

The actual replica shirts, that everyone will buy from Sports Direct will be about £65 - like every other football shirt.

:shrug:
£85 for the "Stadium", ie replica version, I understand from the coverage of this on 5Live this morning.

Apologies for troubling you with my post though. My interest in England football kit launches is near-zero, so this whole pricing thing was new to me, and would have passed me by again if it were not for flag-gate.
 


jordanseagull

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£85 for the "Stadium", ie replica version, I understand from the coverage of this on 5Live this morning.

Apologies for troubling you with my post though. My interest in England football kit launches is near-zero, so this whole pricing thing was new to me, and would have passed me by again if it were not for flag-gate.
Edit - ignore! Was also just making the point around it being £85 but responded to you instead accidentally
 


hans kraay fan club

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£85 for the "Stadium", ie replica version, I understand from the coverage of this on 5Live this morning.

Apologies for troubling you with my post though. My interest in England football kit launches is near-zero, so this whole pricing thing was new to me, and would have passed me by again if it were not for flag-gate.
Fair enough. Not £120 then, but still a lot. I think I heard that the kids ones are £65.

Like you, I'll not be buying one. (even if they were £25, to be fair)
 




Bozza

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People calling for it to be changed are going to be disappointed, I feel.

It went on sale today, so Nike will already have churned out tens of thousands of them.

And given it's now on sale, if they did change it for future shirts they manufacture, anyone who bought the initial version will be wanting a refund or exchange.
 


Commander

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Fair enough. Not £120 then, but still a lot. I think I heard that the kids ones are £65.

Like you, I'll not be buying one. (even if they were £25, to be fair)
I'll definitely buy one for both my kids.

For £15 each (including delivery) from DHGate.
 


Guinness Boy

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People calling for it to be changed are going to be disappointed, I feel.

It went on sale today, so Nike will already have churned out tens of thousands of them.

And given it's now on sale, if they did change it for future shirts they manufacture, anyone who bought the initial version will be wanting a refund or exchange.
Well that's good, because there's absolutely no reason to change it.
 








hans kraay fan club

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Wasnt it Emily Thornberry that slated that block of flats a few years ago during a tournament for all having St George flags hanging up?
Something like that - something sneering about white vans / flags, I think.

This?:


Just how THICK, or lacking in self-awareness, would you need to be to go wading into the current debate, knowing you had that on your CV? Surely anyone with a brain would have just kept their head down, this week!?
 






The Fifth Column

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For £125 you get a shirt that features 'Nike Dri-FIT ADV technology combining moisture-wicking fabric with advanced engineering' - Its just a rather fanciful way of saying its made from 100% Polyester, one of the most common, basic and cheapest fabrics on the planet. Mass produced in a sweatshop in Thailand for pennies I wonder if they let the workers wear Nike Dri-FIT ADV clothing or they slum it in standard polyester?..
 


TWOCHOICEStom

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For £125 you get a shirt that features 'Nike Dri-FIT ADV technology combining moisture-wicking fabric with advanced engineering' - Its just a rather fanciful way of saying its made from 100% Polyester, one of the most common, basic and cheapest fabrics on the planet. Mass produced in a sweatshop in Thailand for pennies I wonder if they let the workers wear Nike Dri-FIT ADV clothing or they slum it in standard polyester?..

I got a Nike shirt with that Dri-FIT ADV stuff just for the gym for 35 quid. (It's from teamwear catalogue basically). But it is incredible. The fit and finish is top notch and I've never worn a more comfortable shirt to the gym ever. Cannot recommend it enough.

That said, they are grossly over-priced as soon as a sponsor and team badge is stamped on them. 120 quid is absurd, but far worse IMO is the totally SHITE quality of the fan version. Charging £85 for something so bad is just mind boggling to me.
 




The Fifth Column

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I got a Nike shirt with that Nike Dri-FIT ADV stuff just for the gym for 35 quid. (It's from teamwear catalogue basically). But it is incredible. The fit and finish is top notch and I've never worn a more comfortable shirt to the gym ever. Cannot recommend it enough.

That said, they are grossly over-priced as soon as a sponsor and team badge is stamped on them. 120 quid is absurd, but far worse IMO is the totally SHITE quality of the fan version. Charging £85 for something so bad is just mind boggling to me.
Oh for sure, I'm not saying its not any good more ridiculing Nike's attempts to try and portray it as some kind of mystery super fabric in order to justify the extortionate prices they are charging. They've developed some good ways to weave the fabric in a certain way to produce an effective fabric but thats all it is, a weave programmed into a machine, even £35 is expensive. I recently returned from Vietnam where a lot of branded clothing is produced and purchased very good quality clothes at a fraction of the price they sell in Europe, the best quality and fitting T-Shirts for 3 or 4 quid, great quality sports clothing clearly made in the same factories for next to nothing. All this clothing is incredibly cheap to produce so I resent paying ridiculous prices simply for a brand badge.
 


Stato

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Wasnt it Emily Thornberry that slated that block of flats a few years ago during a tournament for all having St George flags hanging up?
It wasn't during a tournament. It was November 2014 - Four months after the Brazil World Cup finished. Stupid mistake for a politician to make, but whether a St George's Cross draped over the house next to a white van, or a Union Flag on a white pole next to a perfectly manicured suburban lawn, or a flag from whichever country is currently being persecuted hung over the curtain pole in a city flat window, I must admit to finding the desire to hang flags at all a bit 19th century. I reckon it would be a better world if flags were only for questions on Pointless and Only Connect.

England have more often seemed to favour all white, or white and blue, not white and red. I guess this is either because of the dominant partner's assumption that the Union Flag colours belong to England, or because white and blue is easier to sell. However you could argue that the colours are generally inspired by the flag(s). To move away from arguments about nationalism and towards the much more fun trivia, let's ask the old chestnut about which teams don't play in the colours of their nation's flag and why?

If you can't be bothered to think about it, here's a link to spoilers: https://pyroonthepitch.com/2018/05/06/politics-on-the-pitch-2-the-non-flag-kit-colours-of-europe/
 




Garry Nelson's Left Foot

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Can someone please explain what the controversy is? As far as I can make out there's a small cross that's various shades of red, blue and purple on the back of the collar.

Why has it caused such a storm? Why are politicians condemning it? why are there national phone ins on it? Why does anyone care that much?
 






Herr Tubthumper

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Nigel Farage is raging already !

I like the shirts, although I'm not sure about the cross and side panels. I'm not bothered by it though. And seeing GB News in meltdown makes it all the more better.
Hopefully they will do the knee in it? More of this and I might even bother to actually watch and England game :lolol:
 


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