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The most important debut album in history



Icy Gull

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Can't decide between

Velvet Underground and Nico

First Dylan album

First Rolling Stones album
 




DavidinSouthampton

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Not sure about the Steely Dan album given that 'Reelin in the years' is basically the same song as 'Blowin free' by Wishbone Ash although with different lyrics, given that Argus was released before Can't buy a thrill.

Fair enough, but there is more to the album than Reelin' in the Years.
 


DavidinSouthampton

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Can't decide between

Velvet Underground and Nico

First Dylan album

First Rolling Stones album

The first Rolling Stones Album was the first album I ever owned, back in 1963/4 or whenever. And I still have that, plus the same thing on CD, which I still play frequently. For me, personally, it provoked a life-long interest in Rhythm and Blues and Blues Music. Much rougher and more raw than the contemporary Beatles, not that I would wish to put down the Beatles.
 


vegster

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I read an article about their influences and they were pretty open about their admiration for The Smiths and Morrisey. Now I was never a big fan of Morrisey - although there are some bits I like - but he will tell in just about every interview he does how big the music of Leonard Cohen was to him.
You see this is the point of the thread......influence, inspiration and not just an album by a band you happen to like.

Anyway I think I would have to plump for Velvet underground and Niko if pushed and quote the usual, "not everyone bought it but those who did all went and formed a band themselves"

Belle and Sebastien .....influence ?

Sorry, you lost me at Morrisey.
 


PFJ

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The first Rolling Stones Album was the first album I ever owned, back in 1963/4 or whenever. And I still have that, plus the same thing on CD, which I still play frequently. For me, personally, it provoked a life-long interest in Rhythm and Blues and Blues Music. Much rougher and more raw than the contemporary Beatles, not that I would wish to put down the Beatles.

I am a life long Beatles fan , but as the years have gone on , I have listened more and more to the Stones . Based on the output from the Beatles solo albums and the sheer quality of the Stones music from the late sixties to Some Girls , I truly believe The Beatles would have been dwarfedby The Stones , had they not split up in 1970. Having said that , I still believe Please Please Me is a massiivly pivotal debut album.
 




Superphil

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The first catalogue numbered twelve-inch LP was the Mendelssohn Concerto in E Minor for Violin and Orchestra, Op. 64, played by the Philharmonic Symphony Orchestra of New York, released in 1948. Probably quite important in the scheme of things. :shrug:
 


Insel affe

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Feb 23, 2009
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A very good debut album that influenced so many artists from Cash, Elvis, Jerry Lee through to the Beatles

Moanin the blues.

Although I would say the self titled Bo Diddley must have it.
 

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wellquickwoody

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Appetite For Destruction

Right from the iconic opening riff of Welcome To The Jungle, it set GNR on their way to being one of the biggest bands on the planet.

Not a debut album.
 








Stato

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Now I was never a big fan of Morrisey - although there are some bits I like - but he will tell in just about every interview he does how big the music of Leonard Cohen was to him.
You see this is the point of the thread......influence, inspiration and not just an album by a band you happen to like.

I'm not a huge Morrissey expert, but I can never remember him mentioning Leonard Cohen in an interview. The New York Dolls, Sparks, Mott the Hoople, Oscar Wilde and endless cult actors from the 1950s but never Cohen.

I like Tigermilk a lot and quite like Leonard too, but neither would strike me as being massively influential on the direction of pop music. The Velvet Underground and Nico and Never Mind The Bollocks are obvious choices, but hard to argue with. Most other really key ones that come to mind (Dylan, Public Enemy, Marvin Gaye, The Wailers) aren't debuts. I would add Ray Charles' first album to the list. It seems to me to be the pointer from gospel and jazz towards soul music, although, as with the Chuck Berry, Elvis and Beatles suggestions it could be argued that the singles were far more important than the albums at this stage.
 




wellquickwoody

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My bad! Could have sworn it was Lies, apparently not.

Maybe confused by believing the songs on Lies were actually recorded before the relaease of Appetite?
 


Kumquat

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Two, one to change the lightbulb and one to go and ask Paul weller first if it's ok.
 


Kumquat

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On a serious note, don't know if it's been mentioned but Surfer Rosa by The Pixies was pretty seminal.
 




Seagulls Downunder

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Jean Michel Jarre...Oxygène, this was considered up there at the time as an important album.


Maybe another thread with your favourite debut albums is called for, I have many but wouldn't say they're important, well, maybe to me.
 
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Questions

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Sorry, you lost me at Morrisey.

Well that's not surprising, I'll go slower for you.

One of the biggest influences on Stuart Murdoch - Morrisey

Now rest a bit before we do the next bit.....

One of the biggest influences on Morrisey - Leonard Cohen.

Now another rest before trying to see how different artists are influenced by those who precede them.

And finally we can go back to the idea of IMPORTANT as in the thread title, to obviously mean, ground breaking or even genre creating or just plain influential.

I'm still going with The Velvets although I can see most of the other arguments except Belle And Sebastien ffs.
 


Icy Gull

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Think I'm gonna change my mind on my previous post. Buddy Holly influenced so many of the early pop stars in one way or the other and this was back in the 50's when so many of the future greats were young and influenced by the music they heard on the radio

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Mostly self penned songs which was unheard of back then and such timeless classics as

Not Fade Away
Maybe Baby
That'll be the Day

Pretty damned impressive if you take into account the era that this happened.
 






Worried Man Blues

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Neil Young by er Neil Young a genre all on his own!!!!!!!!!!!!!! For the older readers Robert Johnson Hellhound on my trail Single didn't do albums
 




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