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[TV] The Mandalorian, your thoughts please.



KeegansHairPiece

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Jan 28, 2016
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There's a double standard at play and there are plenty of examples to support that.

She got the role did she not? She wasn't sacked after many pro-Trump like tweets. She crossed a line, a line that existed pre-social media, and of course now. You seem to be struggling with that.
 




RossyG

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Dec 20, 2014
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The more reliable (but not 100%, so take it with a pinch of salt) gossip sites are saying that this was done by Kathleen Kennedy, head of Lucasfilm, without consulting the top brass at Disney. It's Investor Day at Disney and with Disney+ being their only moneymaker at the moment, the last thing they want is another James Gunn situation and #CancelDisneyPlus trending on Twitter.
 


RossyG

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She got the role did she not? She wasn't sacked after many pro-Trump like tweets. She crossed a line, a line that existed pre-social media, and of course now. You seem to be struggling with that.

But the star of the Mandalorian calling 70 million plus Trump fans Nazis is fine and dandy, it seems. And when another Lucasfilm employee vented about how much disdain she has for white people, they defended her and made out she was the victim when people answered back. Like I said, double standards.

And this is Disney who are quite happy to work alongside the Chinese government for Mulan. That's right, the Chinese government that runs concentration camp for Uighars.
 


midnight_rendezvous

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Aug 10, 2012
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what you're saying is no one in public life should express an opinion in case its not a sanctioned, sanitised view. you're probably right, but leave us with only those of the prevailing politics may speak freely.

She did speak freely. But freedom of speech isn’t freedom of consequence. You’d have to do some pretty mad cognitive gymnastics to think that comparing American conservatives to the suffering of Jews in Nazi Germany is in anyway accurate or acceptable.
 


Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
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Oct 8, 2003
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The cancel mob have been out to get her since she wouldn't put pronouns on her Twitter and took the piss when the mob insisted she did (yes, that's the world we live in folks).

The Tweet that got her fired, which media sites seem loathe to quote, is this:

Jews were beaten in the streets, not by Nazi soldiers but by their neighbors... even by children... Because history is edited, most people today don't realize that to get to the point where Nazi soldiers could easily round up thousands of Jews, the government first made their own neighbors hate them simply for being Jews. How is that any different from hating someone for their political views?

Worth sacking someone for?

But there's probably more to this as Lucasfilm is a divided house at the moment. She was part of the Jon Favreau faction and an easy target for the woke mentalists of team Kennedy.

I still think celebrities should keep the hell off social media. Twitter makes a cess pit seem like a breath of fresh air.

I'll miss the character, though. Not the greatest actress but pretty much the only woman in Hollywood who could have scenes beating up men where it doesn't look ridiculous.

I thought I'd unblock you momentarily.

Haven't you got anything better to do than defend gobshites and racists just because they (presumably, like you) support Trump and mock people for wearing Covid masks? There surely must be someone a bit more deserving for you to line up behind. Talk about having a bloody agenda :facepalm:

And, back on ignore.
 




beorhthelm

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Jul 21, 2003
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She got the role did she not? She wasn't sacked after many pro-Trump like tweets. She crossed a line, a line that existed pre-social media, and of course now. You seem to be struggling with that.

and what was that line exactly? invoking Godwins law?
 


Harry Wilson's tackle

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She did speak freely. But freedom of speech isn’t freedom of consequence. You’d have to do some pretty mad cognitive gymnastics to think that comparing American conservatives to the suffering of Jews in Nazi Germany is in anyway accurate or acceptable.

Some seem very capable of seeing this as a battle between free speech and the evil Trained Socialists.
 






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and what was that line exactly? invoking Godwins law?

It was hardly that.

It is easy to misunderstand the use of analogy of course, but it is clear from the original link posted that this person is a bit like Das Reich and his NSC posts - a narrative is clearly being used to promote an agenda.

A shame this interesting thread has gone off topic, though.
 


RossyG

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Dec 20, 2014
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I thought I'd unblock you momentarily.

And, back on ignore.

Half your posts here are you saying you've blocked someone or are going to block someone or that you've taken them off your ignore list for a comment before putting them back on again.

You know that episode of Dad's Army, with the German saying he'll put people on a list if they're not careful? (Don't tell him, Pike!)

Or when Wolfie in Citizen Smith said that he'd put someone on the list so come the glorious day etc...?

The audiences laughs at these people. Not with them, at them. Why? Because they come across as impotent fools who think their "Right, you're on the naughty list" threats have any meaning whatsoever. In their minds they wield power, but in reality they're pitiful.
 
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beorhthelm

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Jul 21, 2003
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She did speak freely. But freedom of speech isn’t freedom of consequence. You’d have to do some pretty mad cognitive gymnastics to think that comparing American conservatives to the suffering of Jews in Nazi Germany is in anyway accurate or acceptable.

i read it first without knowing her persuasion or other background. doesn't mention political sides and makes a point about hating people for their views, isn't that valid?
 




KeegansHairPiece

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Jan 28, 2016
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But the star of the Mandalorian calling 70 million plus Trump fans Nazis is fine and dandy, it seems. And when another Lucasfilm employee vented about how much disdain she has for white people, they defended her and made out she was the victim when people answered back. Like I said, double standards.

And this is Disney who are quite happy to work alongside the Chinese government for Mulan. That's right, the Chinese government that runs concentration camp for Uighars.

I've not once defended Disney. :shrug:
 




midnight_rendezvous

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Aug 10, 2012
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i read it first without knowing her persuasion or other background. doesn't mention political sides and makes a point about hating people for their views, isn't that valid?

Perhaps. But disliking people because of their political beliefs is in no way comparable to the Holocaust, which is what she was suggesting so... :shrug:
 




The Clamp

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Jan 11, 2016
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Seems rather naive to;
A) equate Jewish victims of the Holocaust with Trump supporters.
B) expect your employer to back you up.

Goes to show that freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequence.
 


Bombadier Botty

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Jun 2, 2008
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Flying through space in his ship, The Mando takes a wrong turn. Baby Yoda turns to him and says: "This isn't the way."
 


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