[Politics] The Labour Government

[Weststander]

Nail on head. If people don't like the job in the private sector they should apply for a job in the public sector; similarly, if they don't like the job in the public sector they should apply to the private sector. There is no point anyone from either side complaining about what the conditions were at a carefully selected date in the past; look at conditions now, and make your choice.

(The golden age for public sector pensions was about 1997-2015, after Gordon Brown had changed the dividends that made private sector final salary pensions untenable, but before anyone in government spotted that public sector workers had such a vast advantage. They have since changed the system so that private sector employees get 3% of salary paid as an employer bonus to their pension while public sector workers still get (I'm told) a little more than that.)

That’s very relevant about the taking away of tax credits reclaims on DB pension schemes. Also the dot.com crash and people living far longer.

 

[Giraffe]

It’s not going very well is it.

 

[ManOfSussex]

It’s not going very well is it.

Yep. Let's get the Tories back in power as soon as we can to take back control of our borders, stop the boats and control immigration like they always have.

 

[Eeyore]

The implosion of Labours lunatic policies are already starting to destroy the people it hasnt a clue how to serve. Pensioners worse off, placing blame for riots on one sector of society without real evidence, clueless how to tackle law and order and the unions are laughing their backsides off, it wont be long before we have a national strike, some say we already have and as for the health care service if you thought it was bad under the Tories i dread what the looney lefties wil do to our NHS. The country needs reform and not Starmers idea of it.

This entry was a work of art, prose to end all prose. It felt like Chaucer meets a Wesley sermon. I can see the masses in the open fields, thirsting for more. As a young Henry Fielding strains his ears at the back whilst suddenly realising his life's vocation.

Don't ever leave us.

 

[A1X]

It’s not going very well is it.

If the fascists aren’t happy then I’d suggest it’s going rather well, TBH

 

[Hugo Rune]

If the fascists aren’t happy then I’d suggest it’s going rather well, TBH

I think he means that by the time the authorities have rounded up the few thousand far right scumbags, there won’t be in room in our prisons for their 5 year+ sentances as the Tories ran them into the ground.

Perhaps Rwanda can help us out?

 

[A1X]

I think he means that by the time the authorities have rounded up the few thousand far right scumbags, there won’t be in room in our prisons for their 5 year+ sentances as the Tories ran them into the ground.

Perhaps Rwanda can help us out?

Maybe we could get them doing National Service? Learn a bit of respect for the country rather than smashing it up?

 

[rogersix]

It’s not going very well is it.

for whom?

 

[Springal]

It’s not going very well is it.

Looks good to me. At least we know who the horrible racist part of society really is now and they can be locked up for a while

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Maybe we could get them doing National Service? Learn a bit of respect for the country rather than smashing it up?

Why should the armed forces be saddled with them?

 

[Thunder Bolt]

The implosion of Labours lunatic policies are already starting to destroy the people it hasnt a clue how to serve. Pensioners worse off, placing blame for riots on one sector of society without real evidence, clueless how to tackle law and order and the unions are laughing their backsides off, it wont be long before we have a national strike, some say we already have and as for the health care service if you thought it was bad under the Tories i dread what the looney lefties wil do to our NHS. The country needs reform and not Starmers idea of it.

Points of order.
Pensioners are not worse off. The pensioners that need the help will still get it, and others generally don’t need it.

A pensioner (who is pleased others are being helped)

I think a former Director of Public Prosecutions has more of a clue on how to tackle law & order than someone on a football forum.
This is similar to the riots of 1981 when the ‘looney left’ were governing- wait, no that was Thatcher.

 

[portslade seagull]

Why should the armed forces be saddled with them?

There was a programme on the BBC at least that is what I seem to remember where young offenders of all persuasions where given the option of custody or joining the programme where they had to do 1950s or 60s style military training with the old style Sargent majors.
Some only lasted a day or two they couldn't take discipline but others actually loved it and ended up joining the regular army.
It was a great watch

 

[Thunder Bolt]

There was a programme on the BBC at least that is what I seem to remember where young offenders of all persuasions where given the option of custody or joining the programme where they had to do 1950s or 60s style military training with the old style Sargent majors.
Some only lasted a day or two they couldn't take discipline but others actually loved it and ended up joining the regular army.
It was a great watch

Yes, I know. I served with a lad from Glasgow who was in court, and offered the choice of Borstal or the forces. He joined the Navy.
Our armed forces have been run into the ground and couldn’t cope with looking after miscreants now as well as their jobs.

 

[portslade seagull]

Yes, I know. I served with a lad from Glasgow who was in court, and offered the choice of Borstal or the forces. He joined the Navy.
Our armed forces have been run into the ground and couldn’t cope with looking after miscreants now as well as their jobs.

They most certainly couldn't cope now, totally agree.

 

[WATFORD zero]

It’s not going very well is it.

Yep. Let's get the Tories back in power as soon as we can to take back control of our borders, stop the boats and control immigration like they always have.

Sorry, you've got that wrong, @Giraffe didn't think the Tories were democratic, so he's gone full on Nige devotee, blaming all the violence of the last few nights on the current Government

 

[Lever]

The implosion of Labours lunatic policies are already starting to destroy the people it hasnt a clue how to serve. Pensioners worse off, placing blame for riots on one sector of society without real evidence, clueless how to tackle law and order and the unions are laughing their backsides off, it wont be long before we have a national strike, some say we already have and as for the health care service if you thought it was bad under the Tories i dread what the looney lefties wil do to our NHS. The country needs reform and not Starmers idea of it.

Oh dear, the next ten years (and I confidently expect it to be a decade) are going to feel a long long time for you. I don't know of course but I suspect you might have preferred mendacious tory cronyism to continue for at least another parliament. This government will get better as it settles into power and I prefer the politicians running our country to be less corrupt than the previous cabal....

As for Reform grifters, they offer nothing but sideline carping and infantile, simplistic solutions that don't really survive close scrutiny. They always appeal to emotion rather than logic.

 

[Machiavelli]

It’s not going very well is it.

Condoning the fascists now, are you?

 

[Igzilla]

There was a programme on the BBC at least that is what I seem to remember where young offenders of all persuasions where given the option of custody or joining the programme where they had to do 1950s or 60s style military training with the old style Sargent majors.
Some only lasted a day or two they couldn't take discipline but others actually loved it and ended up joining the regular army.
It was a great watch

The last thing this country needs is a bunch of angry, gammon faced racists being trained by professional soldiers.

 

[Super Steve Earle]

Yes, I know. I served with a lad from Glasgow who was in court, and offered the choice of Borstal or the forces. He joined the Navy.
Our armed forces have been run into the ground and couldn’t cope with looking after miscreants now as well as their jobs.

Let's be honest, miscreants have been running away to sea since time immemorial.

 

[Deportivo Seagull]

Let's be honest, miscreants have been running away to sea since time immemorial.

Didn’t do me any harm …,. Apparently