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armchairclubber

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Aug 8, 2010
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Don't be stupid. If Labour/Lammy has not taken money from Bibi how can I prove a negative? It is up to you to prove the claim, or it's a slur.

You are a being an arse. Now prove you're not.

Though you'll perhaps not see it, I'll make correction of your mistake.

I did not say that Labour / Lammy have taken money from Bibi so why would I need to prove that or even you prove a negative?

You obviously like to play with words.

What I did say and quote:

No doubt, while Lammy has shaken hands with 'war criminal' Netenyahu, donations from Israel to himself and other prominent Labour MPs have been influential in their decision making.

I hope you can comprehend that.

There is evidence of this and you choose to ignore it.

It is not a slur.
 










Cotton Socks

Skint Supporter
Feb 20, 2017
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I tend to think that anybody appointed has been appointed because they are good at something or an expert on something. I seem to remember the new attorney general is a Jew, but he is also a top-notch lawyer and barrister - a human rights lawyer - which probably means he is sensible, fair and balanced, or perhaps that should read woke!

Bloody woke Government giving people positions that they might know something about! As for that Timpson guy, he's just going to give all the criminals keys to their cells so they can escape!

I am sure cash in hand but at least they are trying to do something not just take what's on offer. I would prefer we targeted people who are doing nothing,
You could apply that logic to the Albanian drug dealers that cuckoo vulnerable people. They don't even offer to pay the rent for the vulnerable person. They hone in on the 'weekend, cheeky little bag' single female, that then gets 'love bombed' and before they know it they owe money to the people that have taken over their flat!
I'm no Poirot, but I suspect going after the small fry first, helps them catch the bigger fish. 🤷‍♀️
 


AlbionBro

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Jun 6, 2020
1,458
Do you think that many of these folk you talk of who want to work are paid paye or do you think it’s a bit of cash in hand?
Back in the day we all got paid cash, I loved the feel of money folded in my top pocket. The ladies loved how one of my pectorals bulged so much. Most of my coins went in the one arm bandits on a Friday evening. Good times.
 


armchairclubber

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Aug 8, 2010
1,664
Bexhill
You said 'donations from Israel to himself'. Have you evidence of that then?

That doesn't elaborate on the difference.

If you have evidence that Israel and / or Israel lobby and / or Labour FOI are unconnected then you are welcome to share it.

A variety of connections and associations.

I'll be interested to read your theory tomorrow

I'll bid you goodnight.
 




Nicks

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He certainly did.



No, you did say 'The same Palestinian Authority who advocate the killing of Jews'
These were your words, not that expressed in the video. That wouldn't make sense.

Furthermore, deliberately to garner a reaction, which you have now got.

Obviously.

I suggest you go back and re-read your post.
I think you will find that Suella Braverman is saying the same thing .
 








Nicks

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A1X

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Sep 1, 2017
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Chicken Run

Member Since Jul 2003
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Jul 17, 2003
19,967
Valley of Hangleton
Back in the day we all got paid cash, I loved the feel of money folded in my top pocket. The ladies loved how one of my pectorals bulged so much. Most of my coins went in the one arm bandits on a Friday evening. Good times.
In my first job i got paid in cash, with an annoying slip of paper in the little brown envelope with holes in telling me how much had been deducted for tax
 




Zeberdi

“Vorsprung durch Technik”
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Oct 20, 2022
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Perhaps those swamping this thread with anti-Labour posts about Gaza could perhaps continue on the Israel Gaza thread instead of making this thread a single issue?. There is a very wide legislative agenda for this new Government and imo it would be good to debate other issues too, especially in a less confrontational manner.

Do people see re-deploying the staff on the Rwanda project to carry out a crackdown on undocumented workers working in nail bars a sensible priority? These will be Asian (mainly Vietnamese) workers that often arrived by legitimate formal routes (as well as being trafficked into the UK) but outstayed their welcome by not renewing their visa or just couldn’t afford to get themselves regularised - they then become victims of slavery and other forms of exploitation.

“The UK’s complex and expensive immigration system penalises people and makes them undocumented for a range of reasons outside their control, including inability to pay extortionate fees, domestic abuse, poor legal advice or a simple mistake.”

 




borat

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Jul 16, 2003
661
Perhaps those swamping this thread with anti-Labour posts about Gaza could perhaps continue on the Israel Gaza thread instead of making this thread a single issue?. There is a very wide legislative agenda for this new Government and imo it would be good to debate other issues too, especially in a less confrontational manner.

Do people see re-deploying the staff on the Rwanda project to carry out a crackdown on undocumented workers working in nail bars a sensible priority? These will be Asian (mainly Vietnamese) workers that often arrived by legitimate formal routes (as well as being trafficked into the UK) but outstayed their welcome by not renewing their visa or just couldn’t afford to get themselves regularised - they then become victims of slavery and other forms of exploitation.

“The UK’s complex and expensive immigration system penalises people and makes them undocumented for a range of reasons outside their control, including inability to pay extortionate fees, domestic abuse, poor legal advice or a simple mistake.”



It's a major issue for a lot of people so no reason why it can't be discussed here amongst the many other challenges domestic and international.
 






Zeberdi

“Vorsprung durch Technik”
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Oct 20, 2022
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It's a major issue for a lot of people so no reason why it can't be discussed here amongst the many other challenges domestic and international.
It has it’s own thread - that’s all - why are a few posters trying to make this one all about Gaza?

And it is hard to ‘discuss’ Gaza with those whose starting point is that anyone who has expressed support for the Labour Party/Starmer is supporting and enabling genocide. Not really a basis for balanced discussion is it?
 


Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
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It has it’s own thread - that’s all - why are a few posters trying to make this one all about Gaza?

And it is hard to ‘discuss’ Gaza with those whose starting point is that anyone who has expressed support for the Labour Party/Starmer is supporting and enabling genocide. Not really a basis for balanced discussion is it?

This was all predicted by several nsc’ers many months ago.

Corbyn fanboys will try to hijack Labour government good news and general UK politics discussion threads. It’s called p1ssing on the parade, from envy. For the next 5 years.

Perhaps the moderators might look at this at some stage. The same tiny number of posters attempting to derail Labour threads to Gaza at every turn.

There’s an incredible amount of tangible domestic and our relationship with the EU wrongs to right.
 


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