I wonder what that's all about? For some reason it made me snigger.
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[Politics] The King's Speech - English devolution
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More powers to mayors etc...
They've also made noises about setting up more mayors as well so presumably all part of the same thing
studio150
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Isn't about giving more power locally, but not necessarily based on the mayoral models of Birmingham, Manchester etc.
Cornwall are keen to have a model based on the Welsh assembly, rather than giving a lot of power to one person.
At least this makes more sense that the Tories Freeports which Sunak was keen on.
I can think of more important things for them to spend their term of office on.
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The most curious thing..
KZNSeagull
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Power to the people?
Edit: Ha!
Edit: Ha!
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No criticism from me. I wasn't expecting it, that's all.
One possibility is that by creating a 'devolved' England, rather like the devolved regions, it makes the kingdoms 'equal' and allows UK government to 'get on with it' washout the endless wittering about independence.
To be clear I'm thinking that, maybe, Labour are considering an English assembly, rather like the one in Holyrood. Maybe not, but why not?
If we had an assembly covering the whole of England, it would be representing such a large proportion of the UK population that it'd inevitably clash with the UK government.
Particularly if, without wanting to get into the rights and wrongs of this, it had a more representative voting system as all the other devolved assemblies do. There would naturally be an argument that it speaks for more people than Westminster does.
And if it did just duplicated the English Westminster constituencies and system, what's the point of it? You'd near enough achieve the same thing for drastically less money by legislating for England in Westminster and only letting English MPs vote on those bills.
Having said all that, my main reason for not wanting an England-wide assembly is wanting to avoid being bundled in with Surrey as much as possible.
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Indeed. And under the last Labour Government we had English Regions - including the South-east region of Kent, Sussex, Surrey, Hampshire, Berkshire and Oxfordshire. They were disbanded under the Tories.
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I suspect my interpretation of a few words in the speech is fanciful. We shall see.
(And for my part, I do not want closer ties with Sittingbourne. Sorry, @darkwolf666
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doesn't seem credible unless they propose an actual parliament for England. otherwise it will just be another layer of bureaucracy to interpret and sign off local issues to the central legislation. cant see Mayors getting powers over health, education, transport etc like they do in Scotland. it's more likely power over the buses and local services which councils already run. the big one, planning, will be overruled by central government or block everything they're trying to acheive.
Half Time Pies
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I suspect will be along the lines of Gordon Browns proposals for constitutional reform
www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk
Labour’s constitutional proposals | Institute for Government
What the Brown Commission recommendations for constitutional reform say and what they mean.
www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk
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Mayors and other local leaders are going to get powers in transport (specifically buses which are 60% of journeys.) As for planning, something like 90% of planning decisions are made at local level so if govt wants to move faster the power might have to be more centralised.