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seagulls4ever
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Also the more accurate polling company in the GE with an error of 1%. I posted it because of the selective posting of polls which is prominent here.
Labour have come down in voting intention, but you're wrong about 7/8+ ratings being the norm. First of all, there's not been many polls, so to say it's been the norm is disingenuous. Not sure what you definition of recent months is, but let's look at the polls since September:
1: +4
2: +4
3: +6
4: +8
5: +3
6: +7
7: 0
8: -1
So clearly a large swing, which is not good for Labour, but saying +7/8 was the norm is hyperbolic and simply demonstrates your bias. The average from 1-6 is +5.3. If we look at the average of the +8 to +7 period, it's +6. December to April (recent months) is +4.5.
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JC Footy Genius
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Not hyperbolic or bias but a misunderstanding on your part or perhaps mine, if I wasn't clear. The +7/8 point Labour lead was a reference to the survation polls that showed large Labour leads in recent months which were outside the polling norms of other companies which showed a much tighter race.
seagulls4ever
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I know you were referring to the Survation polls, which is why I showed you the stats from Survation polls which showed you to be incorrect. Your point would have been fine had you not inferred Survation had been regularly polling Labour at +7/8 in recent months.
JC Footy Genius
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The only polling company that has given either side a big lead (more than 5%) in the last six months is Survation. Only for Labour, the last being in March (+7) which I would consider recent.
seagulls4ever
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Now you're just picking and choosing polls. First, it's not good to refer to one poll as it can simply be an outlier. Also, 14th March was recent, and that's +0. The one before that was +3, which you ignored. The one before that, which you initially included, was +8. No problem with your point, just a problem with the way in which your were presenting how Labour had performed in Survation polls in recent months, "7/8 rating in recent months". One poll showed a +7 rating and one poll showed a +8 rating. You ignored the rest.
JC Footy Genius
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As I said you misunderstood my point.
"Survation is the polling company that have given Labour big leads outside the polling norms see +7/8 rating in recent months. That's the 10th poll in a row where Labour have no lead despite Tory Brexit and Windrush problems ..."
1.) Survation is the only company that has given Labour big leads outside polling norms.
2.) I gave two examples, 7 and 8 percent leads.
You thought I was suggesting 7/8 percent leads were the norm , I wasn't.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...y-thornberry-isis-behead-latest-a8362866.html
Labour constituency chief suspended after tweets about Isis beheading Emily Thornberry emerge
'They won’t make a sex slave of her,' Ian McKenzie said on Twitter. 'They’ll behead her and dump her in a mass grave'
Labour constituency chief suspended after tweets about Isis beheading Emily Thornberry emerge
'They won’t make a sex slave of her,' Ian McKenzie said on Twitter. 'They’ll behead her and dump her in a mass grave'
Ernest
Stupid IDIOT
Typical Blairite scum, I hope Woodcock , Gapes, Streeting etc are marching outside Parliament demanding he is expelled from Labour
seagulls4ever
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Jared O'Mara has resigned from Labour having just been reinstated.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-44816015
https://www.jaredomara.co.uk/recentactivity/2018/7/12/an-open-letter-to-my-constituents
Labour did so well to get rid of Lib Dems/Nick Clegg in Sheffield Hallam, but now it seems to have all gone a bit tits up.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-44816015
https://www.jaredomara.co.uk/recentactivity/2018/7/12/an-open-letter-to-my-constituents
Labour did so well to get rid of Lib Dems/Nick Clegg in Sheffield Hallam, but now it seems to have all gone a bit tits up.
JC Footy Genius
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Must be more dirt on the way. O Mara wouldn't quit out of principle .. because he hasn't got any.
seagulls4ever
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I haven't read up in any detail on the case, but for his side of the story read his statement on his website.
seagulls4ever
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looks like 'its all about me' to me. Why wait till now to resign?
Didn't you have a go at someone for lacking empathy recently?
('to get one over them' after feeling wronged is the answer)
Didn't you have a go at someone for lacking empathy recently?
('to get one over them' after feeling wronged is the answer)
Uh....yes..That makes a lot of sense. I could make the excuse of not having read much of the recent posts but acually it was lack of thought. I stand corrected.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...-margaret-hodge-labour-mp-rules-a8452886.html
Jeremy Corbyn vows 'action will be taken' against Labour MP Margaret Hodge who called him a 'f****** antisemite and a racist'
Jeremy Corbyn vows 'action will be taken' against Labour MP Margaret Hodge who called him a 'f****** antisemite and a racist'
I listened to PMQs today. May made some comment about labour going off to invent new terminology for antsemitism, thereby disregarding the terminology that a larger jewish organization (I forget which) and all other parties support. Corbyn had either buggered off by then or decided to not respond. Nobody on the labour side responded. As an erstwhile labour supporter, I sat here cringing.
Corbyn.....is a ****ing eejit at best, and a nasty piece of work at worst. Eejit would be my bet. Giving the signal, whether deliberately or through political incompetance that he knows better than Jews about antsemitism is just pathetic. Does he think antisemitism is too unimportant to bother about when others hint or imply he's indifferent to it - during PMQs!!!
? Apparently. I bet that if it had been implied that he was not doing his bit for South American socialist liberation struggle he'd have been ranting and railing at them.How I wish Kier Starmer would lead an interparty coup. All power to Margaret Hodge. The only way we will ever get rid of May (and after May, Boris) and fight off the Brexit cluster**** is for labour to get rid of the clown Corbyn.
Ernest
Stupid IDIOT
More loony ravings from Mr Ignore
portslade seagull
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I listened to PMQs today. May made some comment about labour going off to invent new terminology for antsemitism, thereby disregarding the terminology that a larger jewish organization (I forget which) and all other parties support. Corbyn had either buggered off by then or decided to not respond. Nobody on the labour side responded. As an erstwhile labour supporter, I sat here cringing.
Corbyn.....is a ****ing eejit at best, and a nasty piece of work at worst. Eejit would be my bet. Giving the signal, whether deliberately or through political incompetance that he knows better than Jews about antsemitism is just pathetic. Does he think antisemitism is too unimportant to bother about when others hint or imply he's indifferent to it - during PMQs!!!
How I wish Kier Starmer would lead an interparty coup. All power to Margaret Hodge. The only way we will ever get rid of May (and after May, Boris) and fight off the Brexit cluster**** is for labour to get rid of the clown Corbyn.
Sadly it's all set for Mr Corbyn to be the next PM. He needs Brexit for the full Tory implosion that will make this possible hence the half hearted fight against it
He's not that clever. Nowhere near.