The Jeremy Corbyn thread

[glasfryn]

Especially without Scottish votes

this would be my dream the SNP joins with Labour and she who will obeyed will be leader

never going to happen though is it

 

[Bladders]

this would be my dream the SNP joins with Labour and she who will obeyed will be leader

never going to happen though is it

She's an odd woman. Wants to block the UK leaving the EU but then wants to leave the UK.

How does that work then?

 

[Leekbrookgull]

Eight resign,who is sitting on the benches tomorrow?

 

[Stat Brother]

She's an odd woman. Wants to block the UK leaving the EU but then wants to leave the UK.

How does that work then?

She wants Scotchland in Europe but the the UK.

Not exactly rocket science is it?

 

[Triggaaar]

She wants Scotchland in Europe but the the UK.

Not exactly rocket science is it?

It may not be rocket science, but it's proved too much for you.

 

[glasfryn]

She's an odd woman. Wants to block the UK leaving the EU but then wants to leave the UK.

How does that work then?

She wants Scotchland in Europe but the the UK.

Not exactly rocket science is it?

she is a strong woman and normally gets what she wants
and better still she passes as a socialist

 

[Bladders]

She wants Scotchland in Europe but the the UK.

Not exactly rocket science is it?

Ey?

 

[pb21]

She's an odd woman. Wants to block the UK leaving the EU but then wants to leave the UK.

How does that work then?

I think the fact you don't appreciate the difference of Scotland being part of the UK and the UK being part the EU suggests you don't really understand what you have just voted on.

 

[Triggaaar]

I think the fact you don't appreciate the difference of Scotland being part of the UK and the UK being part the EU suggests you don't really understand what you have just voted on.

Yep, if his vote differed to yours then he's an idiot, plain and simple.

 

[jakarta]

She wants Scotchland in Europe but **** the UK.

Not exactly rocket science is it?

Corrected for you.

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

what the PLP do not realise is that its matters not a fig what they think its the grass roots that make up nearly all the vote for a leader, which means that JC will probably get in again and those on the PLP will struggle to keep their seats in any GE

the general public might not love JC but he is at least honest and does not tell out and out lies

and who exactly can you replace him with ............the Miliband brother would be good ................but will he do it?

He would scare the Tories to death.

No one stand out candidate but virtually anyone would be better than present incumbent.

Personally right now I'd go for Alan Johnson. Working class background, would keep the unions on board (where was Ken McCluskey et al during the Referendum?, answer: nowhere), and someone who's personality and common sense approach would both appeal but crucially reach out beyond Labour's old support.

 

[Ernest]

The need to get rid of the Blairite faction was needed, trying to be nice to them and conciliatory was never going to work with such a treacherous bunch and so the big stick is needed. Hopefully they will now all be deselected from the Labour Party including Peter Kyle and loyal party members who will campaign to the party's agenda and not their own will be selected to stand

 

[pb21]

Yep, if his vote differed to yours then he's an idiot, plain and simple.

No, if you can't appreciate the difference between Scotland being part of the UK and the UK being part of the EU you don't really understand either.

Not that makes you an idiot, I don't understand Australia's relationship with new Zealand, but I am not an idiot, but I also haven't just voted on Australia/new Zealand international relations.

 

[Seagull58]

Number 9 just resigned. Shadow Northern Ireland Secretary.

 

[PILTDOWN MAN]

she is a strong woman and normally gets what she wants
and better still she passes as a socialist

2 referendums she hasn't

 

[Stumpy Tim]

Notably, Andy Burnham has given Corbyn his support. He'll be hoping Corbyn resigns and Burnham will then definitely get it. Loyal to Jezza, which the membership will like, but just about electable.

 

[cunning fergus]

I agree with your last sentence but talking neo Marxist language is unlikely to win you many votes. This is the challenge Labour now faces, trying to articulate a vision of the future which can appeal to those feeling so alienated by the political class whilst also broadening its reach to those whose votes they need from the Home Counties etc. That's going to be very difficult but a charismatic, clever leader might have a better chance than Corbayn.

I am not using neo-Marxist language I am referring to Labour's underlying political ideology. In short, the Labour Party has a cohort that supports its traditional socialist outlook and that does not square with its other cohort that advocates free market capitalism.

A charismatic leader will not solve it either, we had one of those and he poisoned the well of British politics more than anyone else before or since.

The fact that 52% of the voting electorate ignored the "guidance" of the British and global establishment can be attributed to how they have lost trust in politicians and their wider supporting cast.

 

[cunning fergus]

There are 2 wings of the Labour Party;
1 that can be elected
1 that never will be

People like Dennis Skinner relish opposition more than having power. Easy to point fingers than actually lead a country that will never elect a truly left wing government.

I don't understand, is Skinner not elected by his constituents then, I must have missed the meeting that enables him to float into parliament as an MP without an electoral mandate.

It is your kind of condescension for the people who elect the likes of Skinner that has got us to where we are.

You Labour supporting Tories think you have the solution, you are really just part of the problem; you want what the Tories want but you can't bring yourself to vote for them, better to contaminate another political party that could provide a genuine political alternative.

 

[Bladders]

Number 9 just resigned. Shadow Northern Ireland Secretary.

They're dropping like FLIES

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

Notably, Andy Burnham has given Corbyn his support. He'll be hoping Corbyn resigns and Burnham will then definitely get it. Loyal to Jezza, which the membership will like, but just about electable.

Isn't Burnham off to be Mayor of Manchester...?