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The Jeremy Corbyn thread



spring hall convert

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Nov 3, 2009
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Why is he talking in riddles about Scotland now?

If anyone answering this question could avoid using the term 'mainstream media' or variants of, I'd be eternally grateful.
 




beorhthelm

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Jul 21, 2003
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Why is he talking in riddles about Scotland now?

If anyone answering this question could avoid using the term 'mainstream media' or variants of, I'd be eternally grateful.

you mean where he denies saying supports a second referendum, except if the Scottish parliament want one, but that there shouldn't be one? he's trying to sit on the fence without looking like he's trying to sit on the fence. sitting causal.
 


spring hall convert

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Another point often missed is that no matter who Labour have as leader, they will not be trusted. Many voters have not forgotten the cock ups they made, many working class are not going to forgive and be let down yet again.

They forgave the Tories for Black Wednesday. Admittedly it did take nearly 20 years.
 


spring hall convert

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Nov 3, 2009
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you mean where he denies saying supports a second referendum, except if the Scottish parliament want one, but that there shouldn't be one? he's trying to sit on the fence without looking like he's trying to sit on the fence. sitting causal.

Yeah. That one.

I didn't think it could get any worse than ****ing up a unnecessary story about him paying his tax. But it has.
 


spring hall convert

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Also, can anyone tell me what Seamus Milne is being paid for?

His job title is 'strategy and communication.'

Strategy seems to have evolved from 'Tory-lite' to keep your fingers crossed and hope that there's a massive recession so the Tories get a kicking in 2020
Communicating coherently beyond Corbyn's facebook and twitter followers appears to be impossible.
 




spring hall convert

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Corbyn was given an absolute gift with the Tory U-Turn on NI before PMQ's today.

Did he take advantage of it? Did he ****? One question that barely registered with her before starting to crap on about education.
 


beorhthelm

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Jul 21, 2003
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Corbyn was given an absolute gift with the Tory U-Turn on NI before PMQ's today.

Did he take advantage of it? Did he ****? One question that barely registered with her before starting to crap on about education.

well, at least he's consistent, he didnt mention it in the budget reply either, before rambling on a monologue of general issues (still no idea where the claimed £70bn cuts come from).
 


Titanic

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Jul 5, 2003
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Corbyn was given an absolute gift with the Tory U-Turn on NI before PMQ's today.

Did he take advantage of it? Did he ****? One question that barely registered with her before starting to crap on about education.

Despite being allowed 6 attempts, he only actually manged to ask 2 questions today... one limp one about a 'budget black hole' and one vague one about cuts in schools.

Pathetic effort to think on his feet once his scripted questions were shot to pieces.

He should have been nailing May and Hammond, making them squirm... it was an embarrassing performance.
 






deletebeepbeepbeep

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May 12, 2009
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Yeah lets criticise what Corbyn did or didn't do at the PMQs chirade rather than another failed budget by the tories.

Its not like May will say anything in response anyway, somone forgot to change the batteries and she's stuck in a Brexit means Brexit loop.
 


CHAPPERS

DISCO SPENG
Jul 5, 2003
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Yeah lets criticise what Corbyn did or didn't do at thw PMQs chirade rather than another failed budget by the tories.

Its not like May will say anything in response anyway somone forgot to change the batteries and she's stuck in a Brexit means Brexit loop.

To be fair, there is a thead for that. This thread is about Corbyn and he did fail to destroy May for the u-turn, as well as her support for the budget plans.
 




Moshe Gariani

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Mar 10, 2005
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Didn't watch but if JC took the opportunity to highlight the crisis that the Tories are creating in our schools, worsening by the month, then that is precisely what he should be doing as Leader of the Opposition.

That a Tory in his shoes would have passed that opportunity up in order to focus on some braying pointscoring tells you all you need to know.

The growing crisis in our state education system is an absolute scandal. Tories don't care because they will have continued access to private, free and grammar schools. Corbyn is the type of bloke who just cannot pass by on the other side like most of us are able to do when given the chance.
 


deletebeepbeepbeep

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May 12, 2009
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To be fair, there is a thead for that. This thread is about Corbyn and he did fail to destroy May for the u-turn, as well as her support for the budget plans.

Maybe he believes the state of our schools are equally or more important issue than political grandstanding about budget u-turns, which it almost certainly is.
 


CHAPPERS

DISCO SPENG
Jul 5, 2003
45,092
Maybe he believes the state of our schools are equally or more important issue than political grandstanding about budget u-turns, which it almost certainly is.

True enough. Doesn't show him up to be a strong, electable leader though, which is also important.

PMQs, unfortunately, has become a point scoring exercise, and he could have bolstered people's belief in him somewhat.
 




wellquickwoody

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Aug 10, 2007
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Yeah lets criticise what Corbyn did or didn't do at the PMQs chirade rather than another failed budget by the tories.

Its not like May will say anything in response anyway, somone forgot to change the batteries and she's stuck in a Brexit means Brexit loop.

The reason he didn't mention it was because he HATES people who think for themselves, who do not rely on the state for handouts, who have the drive and ability to earn their own money instead of looking to the nanny state. Corbyn HATES those who achieve and so is happy to see them taxed more highly, the man is a waste of hot air as he cannot even effectively protest, let alone actually DO anything.
 


studio150

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Jul 30, 2011
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On the Border
I think Corbyn got his days mixed up, statements to the House was yesterday not today. Today was question day - oh well, I did chuckle that after one of his statements Mrs May stood up to answer (although no question asked) she was shouted down, and the Speaker jumped in saying he wanted to hear the answer, Perhaps he should have asked Corbyn to have another go at actually asking a question.
 


spring hall convert

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Nov 3, 2009
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Corbyn should have been suggesting a split between Hammond and May and questioning Hammond's competency for the job. His aim should be getting Hammond to resign right now, everything else should be put on the backburner for a bit.

A real wasted opportunity to drive a wedge between PM and chancellor. They don't come a long very often.
 


mikeyjh

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Dec 17, 2008
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Llanymawddwy
Yeah lets criticise what Corbyn did or didn't do at the PMQs chirade rather than another failed budget by the tories.

Its not like May will say anything in response anyway, somone forgot to change the batteries and she's stuck in a Brexit means Brexit loop.

That's the media doing what they do isn't it, they've decided how they want Corbyn to be perceived and that's what they're sticking to. I don't believe for a second that any great number of people watched that and thought hang on, why isn't Corbyn asking about the NI u-turn? Shows you how easily led people are. It also shows you that the media have a very fixed idea on how PMQs should work, and Corbyn doesn't dance to that tune so.....
 






Hastings gull

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Nov 23, 2013
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Didn't watch but if JC took the opportunity to highlight the crisis that the Tories are creating in our schools, worsening by the month, then that is precisely what he should be doing as Leader of the Opposition.

That a Tory in his shoes would have passed that opportunity up in order to focus on some braying pointscoring tells you all you need to know.

The growing crisis in our state education system is an absolute scandal. Tories don't care because they will have continued access to private, free and grammar schools. Corbyn is the type of bloke who just cannot pass by on the other side like most of us are able to do when given the chance.

If you were able to look further than your bias, you will find that they are not the only ones -Mrs Abbott and Mr Corbyn should be able to help you on that score.
 


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