The "JCL" attitude

[Goldstone Rapper]

Not to be taken too seriously....

 

[GoldWithFalmer]

Brilliant stuff-

I'm in the "Prepared to give club"

 

[Max Paper]

Everyone starts somewhere though so why should they be made to feel like outsiders and unwelcome?

I expect there are plenty of our long term fans who either supported another club before switching to the Albion, or also support another team. My Father was a Villa fan when at school and he went to watch Villa (1st time he'd gone to see them play) play us at the Goldstone in 1972 and was hooked on the Albion from that point on, he went to our very next fixture which was Bournemouth away.

He has supported the Albion ever since, through all the good times and the bad. He was a regular at the Goldstone and at the Priestfield when we played there and has had a season ticket for every season at the Withdean and has a St for next season.

Just because we are moving to a new ground doesn't mean this is the only reason why or time we are getting new fans, we would have had new fans joining us every season, and will continue to do so well into the future, even when the novelty of a new stadium has warn off.

Some people need to chill out about the fact that we will have more supporters in the ground, whoever they are and however long they have supported the Albion, those who complain should remember that they do not have the right to dictate who goes to games, but are there to watch and (hopefully but seemingly not always) cheer on the team.

The length of time you have been a fan or whether you have only ever supported the Albion or support(ed) other teams too doesn't give you any more or less right to be in attendance, nor does the number of games you have been to compared to others, everyone pays their money and its there choice to come or not and not for those Johnny come earlies to decide if they are worthy or not and to make them feel unwelcome if they don't think they are enough of a 'true' supporter.

We are onto a good thing at Falmer and that in turn is likely to increase interest in the club, the club is a business and needs to make money to help keep it afloat and keep it as competitive as possible on the pitch, more income means more to spend on better players which hopefully brings more success and the club playing as high as possible in the leagues, pushing away potential customers and limiting our clubs income is very short sighted and can only be a bad thing and have no benefit what so ever.

I know that a lot of the JCL comments are tongue in cheek but do the people on the receiving end know? or do they feel they are intruding at a private club and its being made clear they are not wanted so they are unlikely to return or renew their ST

This x 1 million. You all act as if it's a private forum and anyone who dares to sign up or join in is a JCL. They no nothing compared to you 'super' fans, It's utter bollocks, tounge in cheek or not, grow up and stop living in the past. As already mentioned, a more welcoming, friendly response to new forum users should be the way forward.

 

[Husty]

Not to be taken too seriously....

Put me down as a snob!

 

[DarrenFreemansPerm]

Put me down as a nob!

couldn't resist

 

[GoldWithFalmer]

Put me down as a snob!

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The GUS BUS.

 

[Lady Whistledown]

I think a few people on here are vastly overestimating the number of new ST holders who have no previous connection with the club, imagining them all to be Hove based Man United or Arsenal fans who've never expressed the slightest interest in the Albion until this point. Sure, there will be a few, accept that.

The great majority of our new ST holders are going to be people who, if they were ever asked which football team they supported, would have said "Brighton". They may not have attended games for years, or only sporadically, but been unable to justify the cost of a ST on that basis. They might live further away, they might be among the great numbers who were turned off by the Gillingham experience, or the general pain-in-the-arse situation regarding getting tickets for Withdean. Twenty years ago, local people might have found themselves in town on a Saturday morning, realised they had nothing else to do, and popped down to the Albion for the afternoon. Withdean has made that, if not impossible, certainly a drag which lots of people might not be bothered with.

We had a crowd of 19,000 the season Barry Lloyd got us promoted from this level: they weren't all JCLs. We had bigger crowds still in the sixties, seventies and early eighties. These people have always been here, they are just the Lost Generation who drifted away in the aftermath of years of decline and decay at the Albion. They looked out for our results. They kept buying the Argus to read the reports. They always considered themselves to be Albion fans, just ones of the armchair variety, and some of them turned up for bigger games- cup matches, the play offs and so on. Because someone hasn't been regularly for years doesn't mean they know nothing of the club. This is not a situation like Crawley's FA Cup game at Old Trafford this season, where 7,000 of the 10,000 who went had never ever seen Crawley play prior to that day.

Other clubs would kill to have 18,000 season ticket holders. Plymouth are trying everything under the sun to increase their attendances and raise revenue- do you think they're worried that some of them might not have been to Home Park for ten years? No chance. The chances are, as soon as the season starts, the new ST holders will really get into it, going to games will become an enjoyable habit, whatever the results on the pitch, and they'll rediscover what they've been missing for years. And they won't drift away again, they'll become the new regulars for seasons to come.

And, even going back to the Man United fans- the same will apply. Someone like the first poster who occasionally tips up at Man Utd games when he can get tickets, but mostly watches on TV, will find he actually really gets into the proper game experience at the Amex, and will in time become an Albion convert. Now if we can start turning plastic Premier League fans into proper football supporters, I can't see anything but positives in that.

Our new stadium is not going to be like Stadium:MK, full of Premier League shirts and giant foam hands. Lose the snobbery and get ready to enjoy the experience. I for one will be over the moon to see us playing in front of 20,000 every week, wherever they've come from.

 

[GoldWithFalmer]

I think a few people on here are vastly overestimating the number of new ST holders who have no previous connection with the club, imagining them all to be Hove based Man United or Arsenal fans who've never expressed the slightest interest in the Albion until this point. Sure, there will be a few, accept that.

The great majority of our new ST holders are going to be people who, if they were ever asked which football team they supported, would have said "Brighton". They may not have attended games for years, or only sporadically, but been unable to justify the cost of a ST on that basis. They might live further away, they might be among the great numbers who were turned off by the Gillingham experience, or the general pain-in-the-arse situation regarding getting tickets for Withdean. Twenty years ago, local people might have found themselves in town on a Saturday morning, realised they had nothing else to do, and popped down to the Albion for the afternoon. Withdean has made that, if not impossible, certainly a drag which lots of people might not be bothered with.

We had a crowd of 19,000 the season Barry Lloyd got us promoted from this level: they weren't all JCLs. We had bigger crowds still in the sixties, seventies and early eighties. These people have always been here, they are just the Lost Generation who drifted away in the aftermath of years of decline and decay at the Albion. They looked out for our results. They kept buying the Argus to read the reports. They always considered themselves to be Albion fans, just ones of the armchair variety, and some of them turned up for bigger games- cup matches, the play offs and so on. Because someone hasn't been regularly for years doesn't mean they know nothing of the club. This is not a situation like Crawley's FA Cup game at Old Trafford this season, where 7,000 of the 10,000 who went had never ever seen Crawley play prior to that day.

Other clubs would kill to have 18,000 season ticket holders. Plymouth are trying everything under the sun to increase their attendances and raise revenue- do you think they're worried that some of them might not have been to Home Park for ten years? No chance. The chances are, as soon as the season starts, the new ST holders will really get into it, going to games will become an enjoyable habit, whatever the results on the pitch, and they'll rediscover what they've been missing for years. And they won't drift away again, they'll become the new regulars for seasons to come.

And, even going back to the Man United fans- the same will apply. Someone like the first poster who occasionally tips up at Man Utd games when he can get tickets, but mostly watches on TV, will find he actually really gets into the proper game experience at the Amex, and will in time become an Albion convert. Now if we can start turning plastic Premier League fans into proper football supporters, I can't see anything but positives in that.

Our new stadium is not going to be like Stadium:MK, full of Premier League shirts and giant foam hands. Lose the snobbery and get ready to enjoy the experience. I for one will be over the moon to see us playing in front of 20,000 every week, wherever they've come from.

Superb post-
The first paragraph sums it up and relates to the anti-falmer brigade,fans of other clubs especially Palace.

 

[DarrenFreemansPerm]

Didn't want to quote the whole post but I totally agree with Edna's post. SPOT ON!

 

[GoldWithFalmer]

Does i admit,stretch the page somewhat DFP

 

[Cheeky Monkey]

I support Man utd but obviously living in Sussex

Well OBVIOUSLY you'd support Man Utd if you live in Sussex. I'm surprised we don't all support Man Utd on this board to be honest.

Worst... Johnny... Come.... Lately.... EVER!

 

[Max Paper]

Well OBVIOUSLY you'd support Man Utd if you live in Sussex. I'm surprised we don't all support Man Utd on this board to be honest.

Worst... Johnny... Come.... Lately.... EVER!

I support Man utd but obviously living in Sussex, it is difficult to see more than a couple of games a season and being 18 means money is a major factor too. But I do watch a lot of Brighton games at the Withdean.

At least have the decency to post the complete sentance you moron

 

[tezz79]

Put me down as a snob!

Hahahaha you don't qualify as a snob !! Maybe a nob

 

[Bill Cassidy's tie up]

Also if Brighton were to play Man united I would remain neutral for now, but who knows, by watching Albion week in week out, maybe a love for them will blossom

I also thought thought I could remain neutral. Born in Dorset my older cousins supported United I am sure only because of 1958 and the fact no local teams. (although one of them was on Bournemouths books) We moved to Brighton in 1958. My dad took to me to my first Albion match 1962 and that was it. Early 70's I found out there was a lot of United fans in the area and cheap travel and started following United around the country but still kept following Albion as well. I thought I could remain neutral the first division games etc. just watch and enjoy. Sorry didn't work 1983 It had had to be Albion. In the Bag O'Nails pub with an Albion scarf on I met up with former travelling buddies. They didn't like it and I haven't been to a United match since. But give due to the local United fans they still travel now even the ones I used to go with.

 

[Cheeky Monkey]

I support Man utd but obviously living in Sussex, it is difficult to see more than a couple of games a season and being 18 means money is a major factor too. But I do watch a lot of Brighton games at the Withdean.

At least have the decency to post the complete sentance you moron

 

[Max Paper]

prick

 

[Mackenzie]

I think a few people on here are vastly overestimating the number of new ST holders who have no previous connection with the club, imagining them all to be Hove based Man United or Arsenal fans who've never expressed the slightest interest in the Albion until this point. Sure, there will be a few, accept that.

The great majority of our new ST holders are going to be people who, if they were ever asked which football team they supported, would have said "Brighton". They may not have attended games for years, or only sporadically, but been unable to justify the cost of a ST on that basis. They might live further away, they might be among the great numbers who were turned off by the Gillingham experience, or the general pain-in-the-arse situation regarding getting tickets for Withdean. Twenty years ago, local people might have found themselves in town on a Saturday morning, realised they had nothing else to do, and popped down to the Albion for the afternoon. Withdean has made that, if not impossible, certainly a drag which lots of people might not be bothered with.

We had a crowd of 19,000 the season Barry Lloyd got us promoted from this level: they weren't all JCLs. We had bigger crowds still in the sixties, seventies and early eighties. These people have always been here, they are just the Lost Generation who drifted away in the aftermath of years of decline and decay at the Albion. They looked out for our results. They kept buying the Argus to read the reports. They always considered themselves to be Albion fans, just ones of the armchair variety, and some of them turned up for bigger games- cup matches, the play offs and so on. Because someone hasn't been regularly for years doesn't mean they know nothing of the club. This is not a situation like Crawley's FA Cup game at Old Trafford this season, where 7,000 of the 10,000 who went had never ever seen Crawley play prior to that day.

Other clubs would kill to have 18,000 season ticket holders. Plymouth are trying everything under the sun to increase their attendances and raise revenue- do you think they're worried that some of them might not have been to Home Park for ten years? No chance. The chances are, as soon as the season starts, the new ST holders will really get into it, going to games will become an enjoyable habit, whatever the results on the pitch, and they'll rediscover what they've been missing for years. And they won't drift away again, they'll become the new regulars for seasons to come.

And, even going back to the Man United fans- the same will apply. Someone like the first poster who occasionally tips up at Man Utd games when he can get tickets, but mostly watches on TV, will find he actually really gets into the proper game experience at the Amex, and will in time become an Albion convert. Now if we can start turning plastic Premier League fans into proper football supporters, I can't see anything but positives in that.

Our new stadium is not going to be like Stadium:MK, full of Premier League shirts and giant foam hands. Lose the snobbery and get ready to enjoy the experience. I for one will be over the moon to see us playing in front of 20,000 every week, wherever they've come from.

Absolutely right. Top stuff Edna.

 

[tezz79]

Put me down as a snob!

do you wish it was just the mob that went week in week out to withdean then ?
what would your plan be for the empty seats ?

 

[bazbha]

Well said Edna. Great post.

 

[tezz79]

Put me down as a snob!

come on mate you jumped on me the other day for asking a simple question now you dont say shit !