The Islamic Future of Britain

[Soulman]

Well looks like Australia were in for a similar scenario to the Lee Rigby murder. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...ralia-foils-Islamic-State-terror-plot.html?fb

 

[terryberry1]

Well looks like Australia were in for a similar scenario to the Lee Rigby murder. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...ralia-foils-Islamic-State-terror-plot.html?fb

Extremism is like the Plague. Its worldwide and nothing can stop it so it seems.

 

[sir albion]

Extremism is like the Plague. Its worldwide and nothing can stop it so it seems.

We could but we have twatty leaders with no balls...They do seem untouchable which is very very disturbing.Never realised Australia had 500,000 Muslims blimey,where did they suddenly come from?

 

[Guinness Boy]

We could but we have twatty leaders with no balls...They do seem untouchable which is very very disturbing.Never realised Australia had 500,000 Muslims blimey,where did they suddenly come from?

Sydney is the 6th most culturally diverse city in the world.

http://www.daynews.com/latest-news/2013/03/top-10-culturally-diverse-cities-in-the-world-15031

Though that link mentions some of the Islamic immigrants, I.e. some from India, the Philippines and Lebanon, there are also many asylum seekers and financial immigrants from South East Asia - Indonesia, Singapore, Malaysia and Thailand. What Tony Abbot the Aussie Prime Minister AND the Labor Prime Minister before him did was grow some balls by creating prisons off shore and in the desert, the net result of which seems to be Australian Muslims joining ISIS and plotting beheadings in their own streets.

 

[BadFish]

Sydney is the 6th most culturally diverse city in the world.

http://www.daynews.com/latest-news/2013/03/top-10-culturally-diverse-cities-in-the-world-15031

Though that link mentions some of the Islamic immigrants, I.e. some from India, the Philippines and Lebanon, there are also many asylum seekers and financial immigrants from South East Asia - Indonesia, Singapore, Malaysia and Thailand. What Tony Abbot the Aussie Prime Minister AND the Labor Prime Minister before him did was grow some balls by creating prisons off shore and in the desert, the net result of which seems to be Australian Muslims joining ISIS and plotting beheadings in their own streets.

Not sure our concentration camps are the cause of extremism on this country. I think it is more to do with us blindly following the US into the middle east on the back of their heinous foreign policy.

 

[BadFish]

Extremism is like the Plague. Its worldwide and nothing can stop it so it seems.

Maybe something can be done to stop it? First thing is to acknowledge the factors that cause it. You can start with the clumsy, greedy and disrespectful foreign policy of the US et al as they have moved to secure the distribution of oil. If we accept some culpability in this process then we start to look at what we can do to repair the damage of the last decades.

 

[Guinness Boy]

Not sure our concentration camps are the cause of extremism on this country. I think it is more to do with us blindly following the US into the middle east on the back of their heinous foreign policy.

Sorry, the point was the camps hadn't stopped it but I didn't phrase it well.

 

[KZNSeagull]

Perhaps some of these are needed in the UK? He's a brave man:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-29279879

A Muslim academic has opened a gay-friendly mosque in South Africa, despite receiving death threats and fierce criticism from parts of the local Muslim community.
Women will be allowed to lead prayers at Taj Hargey's "Open Mosque" in Cape Town.
"We are opening the mosque for open-minded people, not closed-minded people," Mr Hargey told the BBC.
He says the mosque will help counter growing Islamic radicalism.
Mr Hargey, a professor at the Muslim Educational Centre of Oxford in the UK, told the BBC's Newsday programme it was time for a "religious revolution".
"In South Africa 20 years ago, there was a peaceful revolution changing from apartheid to democracy and we need to have a similar development in the area of religion," he said.

Mr Hargey, who was born in Cape Town, said the mosque would welcome people from all genders, religions and sexual orientations.
As well as leading prayers, women would also be allowed to pray in the same room as men, he said.
He contrasted this to the current Islamic practice which sees "women at the back of the street, back of the hall, out of sight, out of mind".
However, members of Cape Town's large Muslim community have taken to social media to criticise the new mosque, with some labelling him a "heretic" or "non-believer".
One group tried to block the opening of the mosque.
South Africa's umbrella body for Islamic groups, the Muslim Judicial Council (MJC), says it is investigating the new mosque and has noted concerns raised by the community.
But Mr Hargey insists that the idea of the Open Mosque does not go against Islam.
"The mosque we are doing is a replica of the original mosque of the Prophet Muhammad, where there were no barriers," he said.
"This idea of female invisibility is an innovation that came after Muhammad, unfortunately it has become entrenched."

 

[Soulman]

Perhaps some of these are needed in the UK? He's a brave man:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-29279879

A Muslim academic has opened a gay-friendly mosque in South Africa, despite receiving death threats and fierce criticism from parts of the local Muslim community.
Women will be allowed to lead prayers at Taj Hargey's "Open Mosque" in Cape Town.
"We are opening the mosque for open-minded people, not closed-minded people," Mr Hargey told the BBC.
He says the mosque will help counter growing Islamic radicalism.
Mr Hargey, a professor at the Muslim Educational Centre of Oxford in the UK, told the BBC's Newsday programme it was time for a "religious revolution".
"In South Africa 20 years ago, there was a peaceful revolution changing from apartheid to democracy and we need to have a similar development in the area of religion," he said.

Mr Hargey, who was born in Cape Town, said the mosque would welcome people from all genders, religions and sexual orientations.
As well as leading prayers, women would also be allowed to pray in the same room as men, he said.
He contrasted this to the current Islamic practice which sees "women at the back of the street, back of the hall, out of sight, out of mind".
However, members of Cape Town's large Muslim community have taken to social media to criticise the new mosque, with some labelling him a "heretic" or "non-believer".
One group tried to block the opening of the mosque.
South Africa's umbrella body for Islamic groups, the Muslim Judicial Council (MJC), says it is investigating the new mosque and has noted concerns raised by the community.
But Mr Hargey insists that the idea of the Open Mosque does not go against Islam.
"The mosque we are doing is a replica of the original mosque of the Prophet Muhammad, where there were no barriers," he said.
"This idea of female invisibility is an innovation that came after Muhammad, unfortunately it has become entrenched."

A brave man indeed......good luck with that one. Will be interesting to see how long this mosque will be allowed to carry on.

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

Perhaps some of these are needed in the UK? He's a brave man:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-29279879

A Muslim academic has opened a gay-friendly mosque in South Africa, despite receiving death threats and fierce criticism from parts of the local Muslim community.
Women will be allowed to lead prayers at Taj Hargey's "Open Mosque" in Cape Town.
"We are opening the mosque for open-minded people, not closed-minded people," Mr Hargey told the BBC.
He says the mosque will help counter growing Islamic radicalism.
Mr Hargey, a professor at the Muslim Educational Centre of Oxford in the UK, told the BBC's Newsday programme it was time for a "religious revolution".
"In South Africa 20 years ago, there was a peaceful revolution changing from apartheid to democracy and we need to have a similar development in the area of religion," he said.

Mr Hargey, who was born in Cape Town, said the mosque would welcome people from all genders, religions and sexual orientations.
As well as leading prayers, women would also be allowed to pray in the same room as men, he said.
He contrasted this to the current Islamic practice which sees "women at the back of the street, back of the hall, out of sight, out of mind".
However, members of Cape Town's large Muslim community have taken to social media to criticise the new mosque, with some labelling him a "heretic" or "non-believer".
One group tried to block the opening of the mosque.
South Africa's umbrella body for Islamic groups, the Muslim Judicial Council (MJC), says it is investigating the new mosque and has noted concerns raised by the community.
But Mr Hargey insists that the idea of the Open Mosque does not go against Islam.
"The mosque we are doing is a replica of the original mosque of the Prophet Muhammad, where there were no barriers," he said.
"This idea of female invisibility is an innovation that came after Muhammad, unfortunately it has become entrenched."

All power to him. Just goes to show that "liberal" does not automatically go with "wishy-washy" - in fact, far from it.