[Albion] The importance of those two wins

[bhafc99]

Important for us... massive for Hurzeler. 10 games without a win in the PL puts your job in the risk zone (you'll never get to go 20 winless in a row) whoever you are wherever you are, nice to get that pressure off - had we not won at least one of Ipswich or United things would be very very toxic now.

Nonsense. Absolute bollocks. Maybe a small deluded minority would be unhappy, but if you think this is the kind of thing that turns a Brighton crowd toxic, you obviously never stood in the Goldstone as David Bellotti shamefully shuffled into his seat just after a kick-off.

Hürzeler would only be under threat of the sack if we were dragging along the bottom with the likes of Saints. We’ve only lost four league games all season. Only Liverpool and Arsenal have a better record FFS.

 

[Han Solo]

Nonsense. Absolute bollocks. Maybe a small deluded minority would be unhappy, but if you think this is the kind of thing that turns a Brighton crowd toxic, you obviously never stood in the Goldstone as David Bellotti shamefully shuffled into his seat just after a kick-off.

Hürzeler would only be under threat of the sack if we were dragging along the bottom with the likeliest of Saints. We’ve only lost four league games all season. Only Liverpool and Arsenal have a better record FFS.

Very easy to say now that it wouldn't be toxic and that only a small deluded minority would be unhappy if we went 10 games without a win. You're wrong though. Was quite toxic here in December and would be a lot worse with another month-ish without a win. I've been around long enough to know that.

Tony wouldn't have sacked Fabian after ten winless, but like I've said before that is certainly when you enter the zone where you need to be closer to the start of the bad trend than the end of it because no manager can go winless in 20 straight (more than half a season) without losing their job (or walking from it). So it was important to break it before things got too hot and messy.

 

[deletebeepbeepbeep]

Not worth dwelling on it…..most other teams have done/will do something similar

Hope the club don't have that attitude as throwing 4 points away in the manner we did this season is simply unacceptable IMO.

 

[Gabbafella]

Trust the tracker. We're where we need to be right now.

 

[el punal]

Important for us... massive for Hurzeler. 10 games without a win in the PL puts your job in the risk zone (you'll never get to go 20 winless in a row) whoever you are wherever you are, nice to get that pressure off - had we not won at least one of Ipswich or United things would be very very toxic now.

So had we only drawn those two games things would we only be toxic and not very, very toxic. I wonder whether the clubs in positions 12 to 20 are suffering toxicity problems too?

 

[Napper]

So had we only drawn those two games things would we only be toxic and not very, very toxic. I wonder whether the clubs in positions 12 to 20 are suffering toxicity problems too?

Well 5 of them have changed their managers and toxic levels have started at the others so yes .

Agree with the other poster . If we hadn’t won those 2 things would be turning

We did though so all good

 

[Papak]

And Southampton really. Look how awful they have been this year.

Saints are currently a fraction below Derby's points per game from the 2007/08 season and could get only 10 points all season if their current rate is maintained.

 

[Guinness Boy]

That first goal at Norwich was really important IMO. Yes, we came away with a big win but we were dreadful at the start of that game with poor passing and worse pressing. They hit the post and were all over us.

Then we eased ourselves back into the game and Georgino scored that great header and it was like a confidence switch had been flicked. We took that not only into the rest of that game but the two subsequent ones.

 

[darkwolf666]

If/but

I'm trying not to look at the table and stick 6 points on our total.

You’re not alone, I’m sure…

 

[darkwolf666]

Nonsense. Absolute bollocks. Maybe a small deluded minority would be unhappy, but if you think this is the kind of thing that turns a Brighton crowd toxic, you obviously never stood in the Goldstone as David Bellotti shamefully shuffled into his seat just after a kick-off.

Hürzeler would only be under threat of the sack if we were dragging along the bottom with the likes of Saints. We’ve only lost four league games all season. Only Liverpool and Arsenal have a better record FFS.

Don’t feed the troll…

 

[dazzer6666]

Hope the club don't have that attitude as throwing 4 points away in the manner we did this season is simply unacceptable IMO.

What do you think their attitude is then ?

All we can do is learn the lessons. Looked like in Sunday we have done.

 

[deletebeepbeepbeep]

What do you think their attitude is then ?

All we can do is learn the lessons. Looked like in Sunday we have done.

Hopefully more than 'oh well these things happen to all teams' after we've given up a 2 goal lead in the final minutes of a game twice.

 

[dazzer6666]

Hopefully more than 'oh well these things happen to all teams' after we've given up a 2 goal lead in the final minutes of a game twice.

……and what’s the benefit of still banging on about it ?

 

[BBassic]

Saints are currently a fraction below Derby's points per game from the 2007/08 season and could get only 10 points all season if their current rate is maintained.

Thanks heavens we don't have to play them again...oh...

 

[el punal]

Hopefully more than 'oh well these things happen to all teams' after we've given up a 2 goal lead in the final minutes of a game twice.

Spurs gave up a two goal lead against us . . . and lost. And yes, these things do happen. As Gus used to say “Thas fooba!”

 

[darkwolf666]

Hope the club don't have that attitude as throwing 4 points away in the manner we did this season is simply unacceptable IMO.

What makes it hard to bear though, is that knowing the points lost were on both occasions down to poor individual player decisions…

 

[Simster]

Spurs gave up a two goal lead against us . . . and lost. And yes, these things do happen. As Gus used to say “Thas fooba!”

To be fair, we have given up 2-0 leads in the final 7 minutes twice in one season.

These things happen but to find two further 2-goal capitulations in the final 10 minutes, I reckon you'd have to trawl through two maybe even three seasons across the rest of the teams in the league combined.

 

[Charles 'Charley' Charles]

That first goal at Norwich was really important IMO. Yes, we came away with a big win but we were dreadful at the start of that game with poor passing and worse pressing. They hit the post and were all over us.

Then we eased ourselves back into the game and Georgino scored that great header and it was like a confidence switch had been flicked. We took that not only into the rest of that game but the two subsequent ones.

We said exactly this on the concourse at half time at Norwich, how after we scored we looked so in control. Up until then nothing clicked and we looked very disjointed.

 

[Machiavelli]

……and what’s the benefit of still banging on about it ?

Can I bang on about our not giving up a two goal lead in the last three games? Maybe I could bang on about overturning deficits against the likes of Spurs and City? Or would it be a bit daft to bang on about what is a very small sample size?

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

What makes it hard to bear though, is that knowing the points lost were on both occasions down to poor individual player decisions…

Probably stands to reason then that some of the winning goals we've scored come down to good individual player decisions.

Time to look forward, not back