the HEALTH of our nation

[Mendoza]

Could have done a poll, but I reckon most people will be in the overweight catagory even though they think they are not, I am in it *chunk*

Orange = Overweight
White = Idea Weight
Blue = Under Wieght

Women

Men

 

[Highfields Seagull]

As I said, my missus doesn't exactly 'ban' these lunches, but there is a kind of culture at my partner's school where anyone bringing in those sort of lunches does sort of stand out.

Indeed. At my wife's last school some of the packed lunches the kids had were beyond belief despite the healthy eating messages of the school. At her new school however, one of the kids recently had carrot sticks and hummus, stuffed olives, and some pieces of fruit.

 

[London Calling]

5f ft 10 and 12 stone, I am Mr. Ideal

 

[London Calling]

Indeed. At my wife's last school some of the packed lunches the kids had were beyond belief despite the healthy eating messages of the school. At her new school however, one of the kids recently had carrot sticks and hummus, stuffed olives, and some pieces of fruit.

Middle class catchment?

 

[Highfields Seagull]

Middle class catchment?

Yes indeed. I had to laugh when she told me.

 

[steward 433]

6,5" and 13st 12 ideal weight

 

[Simster]

Oh look at that, I sneak into the white zone. :winner:

 

[Jimmy Grimble]

My memories of PE at primary school are of lessons with no structure, no plan, no purpose and no fun. Teachers basically built lessons around the fat kids; we'd spend half an hour throwing bean bags into a ring.

After school clubs were barely ever run. Me and my friends were always desperate to play football or cricket on the field after school but were not allowed. When sessions were run we had to play on the concrete with pitiful excuses for equipment.

Sports day got modified aswell; no more running and practising, just more bean bag tossing.

 

[Gwylan]

I don't think diet is necessarily set in stone by the time kids start primary school, and I think the kids and the schools together can make change for the better.

The likes of Jamie Oliver and Sainsburys have embraced this debate but it needs to be in the curriculum, otherwise the green shoots of change that have been sown in recent years will die to be replaced with cans of green shoots smothered in tomato sauce and E numbers.

My son is almost 3 and he LOVES raw pepper, carrot, apple and cucumber. There IS hope.

It's not set in stone but if a kid is overweight by the time s/he starts school and he has parents that insist on feeing him'her fatty foods, there is little a school can do to keep his weight down, no matter how many healthy eating lessons or PE Classes it offers.

On his 8th birthday, a child will have spent less than 1 percent of his/her life at school and by that time, a pattern will be set. We should concentrate on the other 99 percent of his time rather than laying everything on teachers ... as per usual.

Other posters have pointed out other factors: lack of play areas, fatty diet etc and there lots of contributory factors but, to be honest, I think trying to get schools to do more is just passing the buck.

 

[Highfields Seagull]

On his 8th birthday, a child will have spent less than 1 percent of his/her life at school and by that time, a pattern will be set. We should concentrate on the other 99 percent of his time rather than laying everything on teachers ... as per usual.

Other posters have pointed out other factors: lack of play areas, fatty diet etc and there lots of contributory factors but, to be honest, I think trying to get schools to do more is just passing the buck.

I agree. Schools are a good place to try to get good messages across (be it healthy eating, exercise, sex education, respect for each other etc) because all children will receive the messages even if they have feckless parents.

However, it seems to have gone too far, with parents having no responsibility for anything. These days schools will get criticised by Ofsted if children bring unhealthy packed-lunches, even though they have no control over this. It's all very well the Government asking schools to take responsibility for social education every time there's a new initiative or crisis in the nation to be addressed; but they are expected to do all of this with no additional resources, whilst finding the time to do it in addition to actually teaching the kids stuff.

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

I am not tall enough .....................

 

[London Calling]

my Dad constantly brings the kids sweets, XMAS was a nightmare, choco galore,

I must have had a shit diet as a kid, dripping, chips and chocolate.

We have to choff it instead

But its a culture I cannot condone or understand.

Yes they get sweets as treats, but we had to give in from our real aim of none, because when we went out, their friends would be bought sweets. lollies, so we had to give in.

Its really hard now goving them natural food, hence my reference to processed veggie sausages etc

 

[clippedgull]

I am not tall enough .....................

Dawn French knows how you feel.

 

[captainmorganrum]

Too fat to adopt
BBC NEWS | UK | Man told he is too fat to adopt

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

my Dad constantly brings the kids sweets, XMAS was a nightmare, choco galore,

After one visit to the outlaws and the youngest (about 2 years old) having been pumped full of chocolates all day (despite my protests) - projectile vomited this chocolate coloured mess over the carpet and new suite.

I had to smile. The old man said "it must have been something he ate" ................... you couldn't make it up.

 

[clippedgull]

Too fat to adopt
BBC NEWS | UK | Man told he is too fat to adopt

What a load of PC bollocks.

The guy is trying to give a kid a loving, safe, and happy home. He's working, not sponging and some overpaid council tosser who is probably twice his size says 'no'.

f***ing disgraceful.

Yes, he might have a heart attack, but young fit people drop dead too!

 

[London Calling]

What a load of PC bollocks.

The guy is trying to give a kid a loving, safe, and happy home. He's working, not sponging and some overpaid council tosser who is probably twice his size says 'no'.

f***ing disgraceful.

Yes, he might have a heart attack, but young fit people drop dead too!

you wouldn't want him dropping dead on you?

 

[strings]

you wouldn't want him dropping dead on you?

If he dropped dead on top of a small child he could do some serious damage!

 

[DIFFBROOK]

There was a couple who were denied adoption because they were overweight when I was applying. That was Leeds too. Total rubbish.

The grief they gave me over having colitis.

 

[Lady Whistledown]

WE ARE STUNNED.

By the number of first schiool kids who get driven to our school.

We on the very edge of the catchment area - we're 3 blocks away. But I would say over half of the kids are dropped off!

Don't even get me started on that There's a primary school on the road where I live, and if I ever make the mistake of attempting to drive anywhere between 3pm and half 3, the road is like an obstacle course with women lumping their 4x4s on grass verges, driveways and so on, waiting around for little Jimmy to finish. Trying to get through past all these road-blocking females is torture.

What really grates is that, to my reckoning, this is one of at least seven primary schools in Burgess Hill, a fairly small town of around 29,000 residents, therefore assuming children are largely allocated places at their closest school, most of them can only live within five to ten minutes walk, maximum.

And don't tell me it's a safety issue, we're talking about a fairly quiet residential area part of a town in which as far as I'm aware, no child has ever been abducted by perverts, paedophiles, baby-snatchers, ransom-demanding kidnappers, aliens or whatever.

Lazy parents= lazy children. Fact.