The French are at it again.... want UK credit rating to be downgraded before theirs

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patcham lad

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Nov 27, 2009
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we stood alone once, we can do it again - we are smaller - smarter & cleverer than they are - we are in a different league from these euro clowns.
 






oxymoron

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Feb 25, 2011
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So much for the so called entente cordiale. According to BBC news those Froggies are slagging us off again 'cos a key international credit agency has (so far) accepted our deficit reduction plan but warned the French they may get downgraded.....in retaliation the French want us downgraded first.

When buying your Xmas booze do think twice before buying champagne or that nice bottle of French wine.

It's buy British for this household until further notice. Got to do out bit to support our economy.

Doesn't bode well for closer collaboration between our armed forces including sharing those new aircraft carriers.....we might need them to sort out the French navy again.

To quote a well known national stereotype: flipping garlic eating surrender monkeys. No doubt they have something equally complimentary to describe us.

Just done my little bit, 18 bottles of bolny bubbles instead of the French quislings inferior mouth wash.
 


Spiros

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Jul 9, 2003
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So much for the so called entente cordiale. According to BBC news those Froggies are slagging us off again 'cos a key international credit agency has (so far) accepted our deficit reduction plan but warned the French they may get downgraded.....in retaliation the French want us downgraded first.

When buying your Xmas booze do think twice before buying champagne or that nice bottle of French wine.

It's buy British for this household until further notice. Got to do out bit to support our economy.

Doesn't bode well for closer collaboration between our armed forces including sharing those new aircraft carriers.....we might need them to sort out the French navy again.

To quote a well known national stereotype: flipping garlic eating surrender monkeys. No doubt they have something equally complimentary to describe us.
I don't think that the French have any say in our international credit rating anyway. Just yet another attempt to draw attention away from the fact that they have no coherent plan to deal with the eurozone debt.

Regarding French wine it's a long time since I've had a bottle that I would describe as 'nice'. Their plonk has been trading off its repitation for years. If you want christmas fizz the best stuff - according to things like the International Wine Challenge - is made on our very doorstep at places like Nyetimber and Ditchling. It always beats champagne hands down in tastings.

Also dropped into Majestic the other day for some pre-christmas booze shopping. They had a number of different red wines for tasting. As it would have been rude to not try a few I started with some £4.99 chilean bottle they had open and it was quite acceptable. Then tried a £9.99 Italian red which was very nice. Finally came the most expensive one on test - a St Emilion at £20 a bottle - and it was crap. I thought it was just me but when I mentioned it to one of the staff he said that mine was a fairly common reaction and they weren't selling very much of it.
 


Simster

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Jul 7, 2003
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Surrey
Cheers Cameron. Great work son
I bumped into his wife on Old Bond Street yesterday lunchtime. She's nowhere near as milfy in real life as I thought she would be.

I know this is irrelevant, but then so was your comment. This is nothing to do with Cameron. It's all about the French government trying to coax Britain into a race to the bottom.
 




Uncle Spielberg

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Jul 6, 2003
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I love France. Worked there for a while and met 100's of lovely French people.

That being said they really can piss off with this one.

Agree entirely tho it does show how desperate they are.

Eventually somebody has gotta out their hand up and say "Europe is broken. The concept is inherently flawed"

Only then can we start to unravel this mess.

Too right James. The Euro is a busted flush. Better to admit it now rather than spunk another trillion euro's on something that will never work as was a vanity project for the Germans and French with Germany more or less dictating to the whole of Europe, which is fair enough as they are the strongest but they have also benefitted the most. When the euro falls next year it will be carnage and could spark hostility against nations as we are seeing now.
 


Triggaaar

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Oct 24, 2005
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If I was in charge I'd drag every soldier back from the middle east tomorrow to prepare for normandy landings mk2.
Why? A dozen or so ought to do it.
 








ArcticBlue

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Sep 4, 2011
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Ha! Somerset brie rules over their stuff, and who doesn't make good wine these days?
Chilean, S.African, Californian, Australian wines......? I can't recall the last time I chose a French.


Ooh yeah British cheese is fantastic too and in many cases better than the French alternative. However if you have travelled France and tried the extensive offerings you will know that they have a world of wines in just one country. Personally i find the new world wines are limited in character and variety (unless you go for the expensive options), possibly due to the mass production methods employed. The supermarkets love stocking the new world stuff because it is consistent and meets the Great British public's expectations and ill educated taste buds, but so does McDonalds.
 


Seagull over Canaryland

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Feb 8, 2011
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Just done my little bit, 18 bottles of bolny bubbles instead of the French quislings inferior mouth wash.

Good work. Can't beat a good bottle of Sussex 'champagne' these days, and whereas it used to be a bit pricey there are usually reasonable deals on it too.

Fly the flag for good old Britain!
 




jakarta

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May 25, 2007
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Good work. Can't beat a good bottle of Sussex 'champagne' these days, and whereas it used to be a bit pricey there are usually reasonable deals on it too.

Fly the flag for good old Britain!

My local Waitrose discounting Nyetimber Classic Cuvee to a very reasonable £22 or so a bottle, its lovely stuff and will be our Christmas Day Morning fizz......
 


Lady Whistledown

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Finally came the most expensive one on test - a St Emilion at £20 a bottle - and it was crap. I thought it was just me but when I mentioned it to one of the staff he said that mine was a fairly common reaction and they weren't selling very much of it.

To be honest, the £20 price tag probably has as much to do with that as the taste...
 






Ooh yeah British cheese is fantastic too and in many cases better than the French alternative. However if you have travelled France and tried the extensive offerings you will know that they have a world of wines in just one country. Personally i find the new world wines are limited in character and variety (unless you go for the expensive options), possibly due to the mass production methods employed. The supermarkets love stocking the new world stuff because it is consistent and meets the Great British public's expectations and ill educated taste buds, but so does McDonalds.

Snob!

Wine, for all the connoisseur crap surrounding it, is still ONLY a matter of taste!
I have been integral in the creation of a 1978 Riesling in Germany (I lived on the vineyard, and tried several aged Rhine wines too :) but I know enough to state that 'educated taste buds' are for the enjoyment of only one person possessing of those 'buds.

If you dig it, swig it, I say.
 


Leekbrookgull

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Jul 14, 2005
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Taken from BBC eurozone news. Main countries exposed to Greek debt. France $60bn. Germany $34bn U/K $14bn USA $7bn. Says it all really,if the Greeks go they go.
 


tubaman

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Nov 2, 2009
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Snob!

Wine, for all the connoisseur crap surrounding it, is still ONLY a matter of taste!
I have been integral in the creation of a 1978 Riesling in Germany (I lived on the vineyard, and tried several aged Rhine wines too :) but I know enough to state that 'educated taste buds' are for the enjoyment of only one person possessing of those 'buds.

If you dig it, swig it, I say.

Exactly. Your taste buds don't need educating. Thats like somebody selling you mud to eat and stating that you will get used to the taste.
 






ArcticBlue

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Sep 4, 2011
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Sussex Inlander
Snob!

Wine, for all the connoisseur crap surrounding it, is still ONLY a matter of taste!
I have been integral in the creation of a 1978 Riesling in Germany (I lived on the vineyard, and tried several aged Rhine wines too :) but I know enough to state that 'educated taste buds' are for the enjoyment of only one person possessing of those 'buds.

If you dig it, swig it, I say.

It's hard not to be a snob when faced with the type of people who regularly drink Blossom Hill or a n other generic plonk without ever wishing to try something else.

Your time in Germany sounds like it was a interesting experience and yes i could not agree more, if you dig it, swig it..... so long as it is not Blossom Hill. :)
 


Tricky Dicky

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Jul 27, 2004
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I don't think that the French have any say in our international credit rating anyway. Just yet another attempt to draw attention away from the fact that they have no coherent plan to deal with the eurozone debt.


That seems to be correct, their lack of a plan is dragging them down at the mo, they have a better inflation than us and a (slightly) better GDP debt, but without a plan for deficit reduction they are currently a worse risk. As someone said yesterday, when one country starts talking down another one, it's always about politics and deflection.

Oh, and if we're talking fizz, I wouldn't buy Champers unless you're willing to spend quite a lot, cheap stuff is usually pretty poor - you're much better off with a bottle of prosecco.
 


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