[Albion] The first goal that Arsenal conceded yesterday.............

[METALMICKY]

At some point this season we are going to concede something similar trust me! Just because there's a rule change doesn't mean you need to exercise it FFS!

 

[Dave the OAP]

I am astounded this is the first time it has happened....I must be a dinosaur as I cannot see the justification of starting on your goal line with the opposition pushing up on you. If this is how football is going I think we will not see a Murray or shearer ever again.

The goal kick to a big centre forward , flicking the ball on for a nippy number 8 to run through on the flick and lash it past the keeper.

 

[Invicta]

Most teams seem obsessed with the short pass now. Actually slows the game down quite often when the opposition stay higher up around the penalty box and the keeper is wary of passing.

 

[Sheebo]

I think you need a mix - I also think you need players / coaches good enough and clever enough to pull it off. It works if you’re not being pressed tooooo much but there were occasions on Saturday it wasn’t working (at the start of the game when their energy levels were good).

 

[timbha]

I think you need a mix - I also think you need players / coaches good enough and clever enough to pull it off. It works if you’re not being pressed tooooo much but there were occasions on Saturday it wasn’t working (at the start of the game when their energy levels were good).

..... especially when it ends in a Ryan chip towards March’s head that Crouch on a step ladder would struggle to reach

 

[Sheebo]

..... especially when it ends in a Ryan chip towards March’s head that Crouch on a step ladder would struggle to reach

Yeh that was bad BUT in his defence, he did make some brilliant balls later on in the game!

 

[Garage_Doors]

At some point this season we are going to concede something similar trust me! Just because there's a rule change doesn't mean you need to exercise it FFS!

Do you have a link?

 

[Megazone]

I prefer to see the ball played on the ground.

 

[Bozza]

I am astounded this is the first time it has happened....I must be a dinosaur as I cannot see the justification of starting on your goal line with the opposition pushing up on you. If this is how football is going I think we will not see a Murray or shearer ever again.

The goal kick to a big centre forward , flicking the ball on for a nippy number 8 to run through on the flick and lash it past the keeper.

Only it wasn't the first time it's happened - Man City conceded to Norwich in the same manner on Saturday.

I agree with the sentiment though - sides putting themselves under ridiculous pressure like this in their own box is crazy.

 

[Bozza]

Do you have a link?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m0008kj4/match-of-the-day-2-201920-15092019

Arsenal at 09:00

Man City at 45:45

 

[BN41Albion]

I prefer to see the ball played on the ground.

So do I, but the way we were doing it first half especially on Saturday was criminal, often ending up with Ryan or Duffy panicked into a desperate boot up the pitch anyway after pissing around between them and being closed down. I'm not sure what the point of this rule is? Does seem to be causing a lot of unnecessary stress on the defence (not just us)

 

[Icy Gull]

So do I, but the way we were doing it first half especially on Saturday was criminal, often ending up with Ryan or Duffy panicked into a desperate boot up the pitch anyway after pissing around between them and being closed down. I'm not sure what the point of this rule is? Does seem to be causing a lot of unnecessary stress on the defence (not just us)

It seems logical that if the opposition are going to leave two or three players up to hassle your defenders at a goal kick then hoof the ball upfield to a target man. If the opposition retreat than pass it around and build from the back. That IS too simplistic isn’t it?

Arsenal yesterday kept trying to pass it around whilst being pressed, time after time after time. Thick

 

[Megazone]

So do I, but the way we were doing it first half especially on Saturday was criminal, often ending up with Ryan or Duffy panicked into a desperate boot up the pitch anyway after pissing around between them and being closed down. I'm not sure what the point of this rule is? Does seem to be causing a lot of unnecessary stress on the defence (not just us)

It's not a rule that you have to play out from the back though? The rules have changed in that the Keeper can play a short goal kick to someone in their own penalty area. Wether you choose to take advantage of that is optional.
I thought playing out from the back under lots of pressure benefited us loads against City. Not only did it get the team playing some nice slick one touch football, It gave us space to play against City.

 

[timbha]

Surely the obvious approach is to mix it up according to the situation, the opponents, how good your players are on the.ball, etc, etc. What not to do is persist in doing it when it isn’t working.

I wonder how many goals a team like Brighton will create from it compared to the number we will concede

 

[BN41Albion]

It's not a rule that you have to play out from the back though? The rules have changed in that the Keeper can play a short goal kick to someone in their own penalty area. Wether you choose to take advantage of that is optional.
I thought playing out from the back under lots of pressure benefited us loads against City. Not only did it get the team playing some nice slick one touch football, It gave us space to play against City.

Yeah you're right of course you don't have to, and to be honest I had Saturday on my mind without thinking about how it worked more against city.

As you were

 

[Dirty Dave]

We had a goal kick on Saturday where Woods and Barnes were both on the edge of our box, on their toes ready to run in on a short kick.
Yet it was still played short and they ran straight in, putting our defence under huge pressure on our own 6 yard box. I dont get it

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[Stat Brother]

It's not a rule that you have to play out from the back though? The rules have changed in that the Keeper can play a short goal kick to someone in their own penalty area. Wether you choose to take advantage of that is optional.
I thought playing out from the back under lots of pressure benefited us loads against City. Not only did it get the team playing some nice slick one touch football, It gave us space to play against City.

It certainly does create a lot of space in the mid third of the pitch.

 

[Arthritic Toe]

Man City had it coming. The way they knock it around at the back is arrogant at times. Also their keeper (Edderson?) is going to get lobbed sooner or later. Didn’t Dunk try it in the semi final last season? It wasn’t even close but someone will get him.

 

[Lindfield by the Pond]

The time waster is for keeper to flick it up onto head of defender who heads it back.

 

[Saunders]

Only it wasn't the first time it's happened - Man City conceded to Norwich in the same manner on Saturday.

I agree with the sentiment though - sides putting themselves under ridiculous pressure like this in their own box is crazy.

Its about keeping posession, teams cant keep this up for 90 minutes (high press) eventually you win out see how we have done with posession this year. You will have to sometimes play it out, this is why the new rule was brought in because it was harder to play it out if you had to kick it outside your penalty area. Otherwise you are humping the ball out and giving away posession and you die a death by a thousand cuts by not having posession. Yes sometimes players will get caught out but also teams will be crushed with no posession and constantly resort to humping the ball up the pitch out of fear.