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phoenix

Well-known member
May 18, 2009
2,871
Good Luck Gimbo.Dont be to hard on yourself.Just think about the good you have done today by writing about this!
 


Jimbo.GRFC

Banned
Apr 2, 2010
1,378
Just got back home and very heartening to receive your wishes of good will. Tricky Dicky, your point is so valid in what I believe is a heart v mind issue. If the donation is from someone who felt a strong enough conscience when alive to subscribe to it then fine, but it's the medics I feel for who have to ask the question of organ donation from the family of the loved one so soon after their loss.

Sorry to hear about your kidney plight and sincerely wish you all the best with this, can you function with one kidney or are there limitations as to what you can do, that it determines it's better with two

Yours

Jimbo GRFC
 


Tricky Dicky

New member
Jul 27, 2004
13,558
Sunny Shoreham
Just got back home and very heartening to receive your wishes of good will. Tricky Dicky, your point is so valid in what I believe is a heart v mind issue. If the donation is from someone who felt a strong enough conscience when alive to subscribe to it then fine, but it's the medics I feel for who have to ask the question of organ donation from the family of the loved one so soon after their loss.

Sorry to hear about your kidney plight and sincerely wish you all the best with this, can you function with one kidney or are there limitations as to what you can do, that it determines it's better with two

Yours

Jimbo GRFC

I guess livers and kidneys are a bit different, in that you can donate one kidney while you're still ailve and live perfectly ok. In fact they prefer to transplant healthy kidneys, they last longer. I have lived for 47 years on one kidney, having lost the other to cancer when I was 14 months old. Although, for livers, I think you can donate part of one, especially to a relative, no ?
 




Herr Tubthumper

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
62,709
The Fatherland
This adds to the argument that more people should donate organs

I'm not sure I agree with an 'opt-out' scheme but yes, more people should donate blood and organs.

Sorry to hear about your predicament. Get well soon.
 


Jimbo.GRFC

Banned
Apr 2, 2010
1,378
Good Luck Gimbo.Dont be to hard on yourself.Just think about the good you have done today by writing about this!

"Gimbo"....... that brought a smile to my face Strutty......One thing's for sure I can't wait to see our boys leading out to the sacred turf of Falmer and joy of all joys just seen the Cup Draw. Gillingham at home, now they can see what a proper stadium looks like. Hopefully we'll have everything nailed down 9seats, tables, forks, knifes etc) before Scally turns up. There must be a song to remind them that's two grounds we've built in the last 10 years, theirs and ours.
 


sydney

tinky ****in winky
Jul 11, 2003
17,965
town full of eejits
good luck mate , hope you have a smooth recovery..........livers are the only organ that can regenerate/repair themselves so you , sir , must be a wrong'un ;-) all the best. sydney
 






Yoda

English & European
Dear All

I am not one who should preach on this subject however I wanted to warn predominately the younger members on this board about the dangers of alcohol that lie ahead. I have just learnt that I require a liver transplant due to my playing hard/working hard over the last 25 years.

As a youngster, I like you, thought I was invincible but this is a disease which doesn't warn you it's coming but arrives when it is ready if you drink long term. Within my work role part of my role was to entertain clients and given the choice between water or an alcoholic drink would by in large opt for the latter. My social network also involved meeting friends in pubs all the time (coffee shops were a no-no).

I seek no sympathy, in fact if and when one were to become available I have sought assurance that if someone on the waiting list requires a replacement through natural causes, then I want them to take the place in front of me. After all I did this to myself.

I have a few hard months in front of me and it's playing havoc with my head (I don't mind confessing to the fact that I'm bricking it as well), but I will beat this, as a Jocko, having bought a season ticket plan to make sure I get my years worth.

Sorry for dampening the mood at the end of the day, but even if one youngster heeds the above then it will have been worthwhile.

Yours

Jimbo GRFC

All I can say is good luck in you battle. Your liver has/is given up the fight and soon things will start to go wrong else where in your body.

I say this as I watched first hand my dad go through the same thing over the previous 3 years until his other organs started to fail and he lost his battle just over 6 months ago. He was only 59.

The 2 years from when he was diagnosed, he hadn't touched a drop. He was told he was doing fine. Then all of a sudden he started to go downhill and was too ill for a transplant.

Watching him taking each turn for the worse after looking like he was getting better (one step forward, two back) and then finally watching him die was one of the hardest things I've ever faced.

I wouldn't even put him down as drinking as much as you from what you say, just 2 (maybe 3 on the odd occasion) cans of beer per week night. Only going above that at parties and at home at the weekend, although I don't know what he was like for the 7-8 years before my brother or I were born, but it all adds up and takes it toll.

Again, good luck, and stay healthy (even food wise) because remember, your liver can't clean out the toxins as quickly as it used to.
 






bhaexpress

New member
Jul 7, 2003
27,627
Kent
I carry a donor card and have done so for many years. I just can't see any reason for not donating your organs, once you're clinically pronouced dead what the hell use are they to you ?
 


sydney

tinky ****in winky
Jul 11, 2003
17,965
town full of eejits
All I can say is good luck in you battle. Your liver has/is given up the fight and soon things will start to go wrong else where in your body.

I say this as I watched first hand my dad go through the same thing over the previous 3 years until his other organs started to fail and he lost his battle just over 6 months ago. He was only 59.

The 2 years from when he was diagnosed, he hadn't touched a drop. He was told he was doing fine. Then all of a sudden he started to go downhill and was too ill for a transplant.

Watching him taking each turn for the worse after looking like he was getting better (one step forward, two back) and then finally watching him die was one of the hardest things I've ever faced.

I wouldn't even put him down as drinking as much as you from what you say, just 2 (maybe 3 on the odd occasion) cans of beer per week night. Only going above that at parties and at home at the weekend, although I don't know what he was like for the 7-8 years before my brother or I were born, but it all adds up and takes it toll.

Again, good luck, and stay healthy (even food wise) because remember, your liver can't clean out the toxins as quickly as it used to.

:( fucksake.
 


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New member
May 9, 2008
13,331
Haywards Heath
I carry a donor card and have done so for many years. I just can't see any reason for not donating your organs, once you're clinically pronouced dead what the hell use are they to you ?
The only reason I wouldnt is that I've heard that some doctors can be a little overkeen to get the organs whilst there is still a chance for you.
 




Herr Tubthumper

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
62,709
The Fatherland
The only reason I wouldnt is that I've heard that some doctors can be a little overkeen to get the organs whilst there is still a chance for you.

..and there is a debate as to what constitutes death. Some are obvious...but others not so.
 


Jimbo.GRFC

Banned
Apr 2, 2010
1,378
good luck mate , hope you have a smooth recovery..........livers are the only organ that can regenerate/repair themselves so you , sir , must be a wrong'un ;-) all the best. sydney

Believe me I have been in what I was led to believe was normal with the dreaded stuff! But having seen the drinks available at The Amex I feel I got out just in time. Its difficult this to talk about it without sounding that I am on some kind of high high horse
 


Gully

Monkey in a seagull suit.
Apr 24, 2004
16,812
Way out west
I'm amazed that the wife of one of them has complained in the "Argus" was "shopped" on a drunk-driving charge. I never knew anybody who stopped police officers in his or her car, to tell them he was unfit to drive through alcohol.

Shopped could mean that someone else grassed them up. A few years ago I did precisely that having witnessed a road accident, the driver was so drunk that she could barely stand up. I went off, found a cop, who attended the scene and she was duly arrested and charged.
 


poidy

Well-known member
Aug 3, 2009
1,849
So, you start by explaining your long-term drink problem, and end by saying you "never had a drink problem".

The sad thing is that people see "getting absolutely wasted" as "normal", because "most young men and women" also do it.

To be fair though, we do get mixed messages about this - I feel "normal" because I DON'T do the above, but I still drink regularly enough to be well above the weekly limit.

Good luck to Jimbo, and let's hope he makes a few of us think about it...

Perhaps i didnt explain myself properly.

The point I was trying to make was whilst i was drinking far too much i didnt consider myself reliant on alcohol in any way shape or form. It was merely a form of enjoyment rather than a necessity. Which is why when i realised it was time to slow down I done so with no problems.

Anyway good luck to Jimbo. I hope everything works out
 




Jimbo.GRFC

Banned
Apr 2, 2010
1,378
I guess livers and kidneys are a bit different, in that you can donate one kidney while you're still ailve and live perfectly ok. In fact they prefer to transplant healthy kidneys, they last longer. I have lived for 47 years on one kidney, having lost the other to cancer when I was 14 months old. Although, for livers, I think you can donate part of one, especially to a relative, no ?

Definite no-no I'm afraid Tricky, its repair or replace. I questioned that rumour with my consultant last week and all he said "do you know Robbie Keane is joining Brighton" :lol::lol::lol:
 




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