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The CPRE gets a bit mixed up



Gwylan

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
31,818
Uffern
The Campaign to Protect Rural England appears to be suffering from amnesia.

According to a BBC report (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3788901.stm), local councils should be given control over whether building schemes should be given the go-ahed in protected areas.

Let me get this right. This is the same CPRE that has protested against the stadium in Falmer after the local council gave it the go-ahead? Not much of a belief in giving local people a voice there.
 




sully

Dunscouting
Jul 7, 2003
7,926
Worthing
Lets just hope they gave that advice to Prescott, too.

Is it too late, Lord B to point out this statement from them to the DPM. After all, their representative is directly quoted thus:



Head of Rural Policy at the CPRE, Tom Oliver, said: "The government claims local landscape designations are preventing 'necessary' development.

"But they have offered no evidence of this, which begs the question: Who should be deciding local planning issues - the locally elected council, which knows its patch, or the Office of the Deputy Prime Minister in Whitehall?"




Clearly, our local planning department know their patch best and have said we should have a stadium at Falmer. Thank you for your assistance CPRE!
 


Gwylan

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
31,818
Uffern
I think this shows what wankers the CPRE are. They're nothing to do with giving local people a voice or preserving rural England, but are a pressure group for rich property owners.
 




Yorkie

Sussex born and bred
Jul 5, 2003
32,367
dahn sarf
I saw Tom Oliver (representing the CPRE) being interviewed on Breakfast tv, just outside Aylesbury this morning, and he mentioned the same thing.

We picked up on that comment too. :dunce:
 
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The Clown of Pevensey Bay

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
4,339
Suburbia
Dear CPRE,

I'm rather curious about a couple of your recent public statements. On BBC
Online today (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3788901.stm) you assert the
right of local councils to make planning decisions about sensitive parts of
the countryside.

Yet in the Times on June 5th, you protested against plans currently under
review by the Office of the Deputy Prime Minister to build a stadium for
Brighton and Hove Albion FC at Falmer. This plan was supported by the local
authority. It was also supported by more than sixty per cent of those who
voted in a local referendum on the issue.

Why are you so keen to see democracy prevail in some cases yet not in
others?

Yours faithfully

The Clown
Pevensey Bay.
 


balloonboy

aka Jim in the West
Jan 6, 2004
1,100
Way out West
Sorry for being dense here, but what LEGAL status does Hoile's report have at the mo? At some stage I assume that the draft Local Plan will be adopted - but in what form? Maybe these questions are irrelevant as far as the CPRE issue is concerned, but perhaps they would simply say that the Local Plan is still all up in the air, and that there are conflicting views. I am sorely tempted to write to the CPRE, but don't have the confidence that I understand the planning issues.
 


whitelion

New member
Dec 16, 2003
12,828
Southwick
balloonboy said:
Sorry for being dense here, but what LEGAL status does Hoile's report have at the mo? At some stage I assume that the draft Local Plan will be adopted - but in what form? Maybe these questions are irrelevant as far as the CPRE issue is concerned, but perhaps they would simply say that the Local Plan is still all up in the air, and that there are conflicting views. I am sorely tempted to write to the CPRE, but don't have the confidence that I understand the planning issues.


I'm led to believe that Hoile's report is advisory only.
 






Brighton and Hove City Council are legally required to take Hoile's report into account in moving towards adopting a new Local Plan.

Taking into account isn't the same thing as agreeing with it. However, if the Council wish to disagree with the Local Plan Inspector's Report, there are statutory procedures that they will have to go through.

I gather we have to "await further developments".

From the City Council's website:-

The Brighton & Hove Local Plan - the next stages

The Inspector's Report has now been received.

From receipt of the Report, the Council has 8 weeks in which to publish its plan to the general public and to send copies to adjoining planning authorities and various statutory bodies.

The Inpector's Report is available on the web and printed copies will be available in public libraries and City Direct offices shortly.

The City Council will then have to consider whether or not it accepts the Inspector's recommendations, in all, in part or not at all. If it does accept them, then it will need to set out the proposed modifications and advertise them for 6 weeks to allow for expressions of support and objections from the public to be recieved.

The City Council will then have to decide whether any objections should be taken to a further Inquiry or proceed to adoption.
 


balloonboy

aka Jim in the West
Jan 6, 2004
1,100
Way out West
Thanks Lord B - but surely more than 8 weeks have passed since Hoile's report was published - shouldn't the City Council have published it's "plan" by now - or have I misunderstood things?
 




Yorkie

Sussex born and bred
Jul 5, 2003
32,367
dahn sarf
I am sure I read somewhere recently that Bodfish had written to John Prescott about Hoiles report?
 


Beach Hut

Brighton Bhuna Boy
Jul 5, 2003
72,293
Living In a Box
FFS just tell us one way or the other - this is getting very tiresome now.
 


Brovion

In my defence, I was left unsupervised.
NSC Patron
Jul 6, 2003
19,821
Beach Hut said:
FFS just tell us one way or the other - this is getting very tiresome now.
Surely you don't mean that? I'd rather be told 'Yes' at Christmas than 'No' now.
 




sully

Dunscouting
Jul 7, 2003
7,926
Worthing
Yorkie said:
I am sure I read somewhere recently that Bodfish had written to John Prescott about Hoiles report?

I'm absolutely certain that Bodfish did write to the DPM immediately the report was published, pointing out one or two inconsistencies not limited to the Falmer issue. The letter was published somewhere, coz I'm sure I read it. I guess it was in the Argus and someone posted it on here.
 




Wardy

NSC's Benefits Guru
Oct 9, 2003
11,219
In front of the PC
It almost seems that they are making this drag on as long as posible in the hope that we go away. I still find it hard to understand how the views of a hand full of people can be taken over that of 60% of people that voted. I think we should be thankful to DK for continuing the fight, despite the many obsticals that have been put in his / our way. A lesser man might have given up ages ago.
 


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