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Norman Potting

Norman Potting

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Nov 5, 2006
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Sussex, Sussex not by the sea and actually nearer
Icy Gull said:
This may have already been mentioned, it’s a long thread. People who had a BCG inoculation MAY be less susceptible to full blown Covid 19.

Weren’t these given to most children back in the day?
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Remember it well, had mine '72/'73 or thereabouts. Two parts to it. First was a fearsome contraption with six needles I think. Not as bad as it sounded as, after they had smeared some TB on your arm (sure it wasn't really that) the aforementioned contraption was used to just to break the surface of the skin. They came back after a week and, if you already had immunity to TB, you would have a neat little ring of raised skin which meant you didn't need the inoculation.

Various items on line and some reports, not yet peer reviewed. If it ever comes up in a pub quiz BCG stands for Bacille Calmette-Guérin who I assume invented it :)
 
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RossyG

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Dec 20, 2014
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Icy Gull said:
This may have already been mentioned, it’s a long thread. People who had a BCG inoculation MAY be less susceptible to full blown Covid 19.

Weren’t these given to most children back in the day?
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I definitely had one at my school in Surrey c.1984. The whole year did. At least, I don’t remember anyone opting out.
 




Swansman

Swansman

Pro-peace
May 13, 2019
22,320
Sweden
Blue Valkyrie said:
And the older the type of BCG vaccine the better.

I've been very interested in why former USSR / Warsaw Pact countries haven't been hit so hard so far.

Beside Putin hushing up the Russia figures, it could well also have been the compulsory TB vaccination they used in Soviet days.

Lightbulb : Germany has good outcomes so far... but part of it used to be East Germany... does this skew their figures ???
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Western Supremacists: Iraq is lying about their numbers!

Iran: We're in deep shit, loads are dying

Western Supremacists: Russia is lying about their numbers!

Russia: We have a huge influx of patients in Moscow and its only began

Pathetic.

Guess this poorly hidden racism against Arabs and Slavs will continue until the day we manage to colonialise and enslave them.
 






Blue Valkyrie

Blue Valkyrie

Not seen such Bravery!
Sep 1, 2012
32,165
Valhalla
Swansman said:
Western Supremacists: Iraq is lying about their numbers!

Iran: We're in deep shit, loads are dying

Western Supremacists: Russia is lying about their numbers!

Russia: We have a huge influx of patients in Moscow and its only began

Pathetic.

Guess this poorly hidden racism against Arabs and Slavs will continue until the day we manage to colonialise and enslave them.
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Yeah, cos to suggest Putin has been hiding the figures is racism against slavs.

FFS.

Think what you want. Blocked.
 


Swansman

Swansman

Pro-peace
May 13, 2019
22,320
Sweden
RossyG said:
Iranians aren’t Arabs.

Also distrusting dictators isn't racism.
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True that, was originally listing a few Middle East countries but concentrated it, but indeed - right should be right.

No, distrusting "dictators" is not racism, however it implies that these countries are not "developed" enough to remove their "dictators" like we've done in our perfect, flawless, Godlike "liberal" "democracies".
 


1066familyman

1066familyman

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Jan 15, 2008
15,233
Garry Nelson's teacher said:
I've heard - and this is purely anecdotally - that St Richards and Worthing hospitals are similar. You've go to grab the good news where you can.
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I don't mean this to sound negative, especially as this is the good news thread, but I thought I heard somewhere that down here (in Hastings at least) our peak is likely to come about 2 weeks after the London peak.

Can anyone confirm if this is likely to be the case or not?
 




Green Cross Code Man

Green Cross Code Man

Wunt be druv
Mar 30, 2006
20,721
Eastbourne
1066familyman said:
I don't mean this to sound negative, especially as this is the good news thread, but I thought I heard somewhere that down here (in Hastings at least) our peak is likely to come about 2 weeks after the London peak.

Can anyone confirm if this is likely to be the case or not?
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In the BBC case checker for confirmed covid cases, there are only 335 in the whole of East Sussex. That figure has only been creeping up and will be made up of frontline health workers and people unfortunate enough to end up needing hospital treatment. I can't see why, unless something goes drastically wrong, we would see any sharp increase given our isolating measures.
 


1066familyman

1066familyman

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Jan 15, 2008
15,233
Green Cross Code Man said:
In the BBC case checker for confirmed covid cases, there are only 335 in the whole of East Sussex. That figure has only been creeping up and will be made up of frontline health workers and people unfortunate enough to end up needing hospital treatment. I can't see why, unless something goes drastically wrong, we would see any sharp increase given our isolating measures.
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To be clear. I'm not trying to suggest that we're due huge figures down here, just that our peak figures are suppossedly lagging about two weeks behind London's. Which is why I mention it in relation to posts about our hospitals here being quiet at the moment.
 


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East Staffs Gull

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Jan 16, 2004
1,421
Birmingham and Austria
1066familyman said:
I don't mean this to sound negative, especially as this is the good news thread, but I thought I heard somewhere that down here (in Hastings at least) our peak is likely to come about 2 weeks after the London peak.

Can anyone confirm if this is likely to be the case or not?
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Some way off I’m afraid. Deaths in the Hastings area peaked about 1,000 years ago.
 








Bozza

Bozza

You can change this
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Jul 4, 2003
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Back in Sussex
Fingers crossed for this one...

Results of large hydroxychloroquine study to be released next week

Researchers in New York will announce new week the preliminary results of a study on hydroxychloroquine, a drug often touted by President Trump as a “game-changer” for coronavirus patients.

The announcement could offer one of the first scientific hints as to whether the drugs are helpful against the virus.

Since hydroxychloroquine is already on the market for malaria, lupus and other diseases, doctors are free to prescribe it “off label” to patients with coronavirus. Doctors can also prescribe chloroquine, a similar drug, and azithromycin, an antibiotic that’s sometimes paired with the two drugs.

The New York study will review hundreds of medical records from hospital patients across New York state with coronavirus to see if the drugs are helping them or hurting them.

“We wanted to get an immediate sense of this,” said David Holtgrave, dean of the University at Albany School of Public Health, who is running the study. “Time is so much of the essence here.”
A recent chloroquine study in Brazil was halted because study subjects who were taking a high dose of the drug had a higher risk of potentially deadly heart problems.

Because of those cardiac concerns, a Swedish government agency has issued a warning that that chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine should not be used outside of clinical trials for Covid-19.

The Albany researchers will review hospital charts to see if patients who are taking the drugs have different outcomes compared with those who are not. They’ll be comparing mortality rates, and rates of admission to the intensive care unit as well as any side effects of the drugs.

The researchers hope to study 1,600 patients divided equally into four groups: those taking hydroxychloroquine; those taking hydroxychloroquine along with azithromycin; those taking chloroquine; and those taking none of the drugs, as a comparison group.

Holtgrave said he hopes to have final results at the end of the month. He said doctors shouldn’t make prescribing decisions based on the results of his study alone. Rather, he said doctors should look at his results together with the results of clinical trials, which are considered more rigorous.

In clinical trials, which are considered the gold standard in medicine, doctors give the drugs to a group of patients and then give placebo pills to another group of patients, and compare how the two groups fare. There are more than a dozen clinical trials underway in the US right now but results for most of them won’t be published for months.

The Albany medical records study is being conducted in partnership with the New York Department of Health, which is funding the study.​
 




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portslade seagull

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Jul 19, 2003
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portslade
Bozza said:
Fingers crossed for this one...

Results of large hydroxychloroquine study to be released next week

Researchers in New York will announce new week the preliminary results of a study on hydroxychloroquine, a drug often touted by President Trump as a “game-changer” for coronavirus patients.

The announcement could offer one of the first scientific hints as to whether the drugs are helpful against the virus.

Since hydroxychloroquine is already on the market for malaria, lupus and other diseases, doctors are free to prescribe it “off label” to patients with coronavirus. Doctors can also prescribe chloroquine, a similar drug, and azithromycin, an antibiotic that’s sometimes paired with the two drugs.

The New York study will review hundreds of medical records from hospital patients across New York state with coronavirus to see if the drugs are helping them or hurting them.

“We wanted to get an immediate sense of this,” said David Holtgrave, dean of the University at Albany School of Public Health, who is running the study. “Time is so much of the essence here.”
A recent chloroquine study in Brazil was halted because study subjects who were taking a high dose of the drug had a higher risk of potentially deadly heart problems.

Because of those cardiac concerns, a Swedish government agency has issued a warning that that chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine should not be used outside of clinical trials for Covid-19.

The Albany researchers will review hospital charts to see if patients who are taking the drugs have different outcomes compared with those who are not. They’ll be comparing mortality rates, and rates of admission to the intensive care unit as well as any side effects of the drugs.

The researchers hope to study 1,600 patients divided equally into four groups: those taking hydroxychloroquine; those taking hydroxychloroquine along with azithromycin; those taking chloroquine; and those taking none of the drugs, as a comparison group.

Holtgrave said he hopes to have final results at the end of the month. He said doctors shouldn’t make prescribing decisions based on the results of his study alone. Rather, he said doctors should look at his results together with the results of clinical trials, which are considered more rigorous.

In clinical trials, which are considered the gold standard in medicine, doctors give the drugs to a group of patients and then give placebo pills to another group of patients, and compare how the two groups fare. There are more than a dozen clinical trials underway in the US right now but results for most of them won’t be published for months.

The Albany medical records study is being conducted in partnership with the New York Department of Health, which is funding the study.​
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Isn't that the one that Brazil have dropped because it has been causing irregular heart beat issues
 














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