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macbeth

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UK - Mass Covid tests trialled in Liverpool ‘cut transmission by 90% & can help us get back to normal ASAP



www.thesun.co.uk/news/13169865/mass-covid-tests-trialled-liverpool-cut-transmission-90/

I'm based in Liverpool at the moment, and I went for one of these tests the other day. It was honestly a super easy, painless experience and the results came back within 45 mins via text i.e you can go about your day after the test and don't have to wait at the testing centre for the results, at least if you're you're asymptomatic anyway (they send you in different directions to different queues depending on whether you say you have symptoms or not)

Quick swab on the sides of the tonsils a few times, which, granted, does make you gag, and then up the nostril where it has to be rolled around five times. You don't have to put it that far up, just until you 'feel resistance'. All this stuff I've heard about the swab having to go up to where your nostril meets your throat is total nonsense.

If that's what's we have to do from now on to get us back to normal, then sign me up!
 
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Neville's Breakfast

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I'm based in Liverpool at the moment, and I went for one of these tests the other day. It was honestly a super easy, painless experience and the results came back within 45 mins via text i.e you can go about your day after the test and don't have to wait at the testing centre for the results, at least if you're you're asymptomatic anyway (they send you in different directions to different queues depending on whether you say you have symptoms or not)

Quick swab on the sides of the tonsils a few times, which, granted, does make you gag, and then up the nostril where it has to be rolled around five times. You don't have to put it that far up, just until you 'feel resistance'. All this stuff I've heard about the swab having to go up to where your nostril meets your throat is total nonsense.

If that's what's we have to do from now on to get us back to normal, then sign me up!

What’s the queuing like ? I’m a bit unsure about being in a room potentially full of Covid carriers. We’ve recently moved to the Cheshire countryside and aren’t going anywhere near Liverpool/Manchester. I think our nearest testing place is at Manchester Airport.
 


macbeth

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What’s the queuing like ? I’m a bit unsure about being in a room potentially full of Covid carriers. We’ve recently moved to the Cheshire countryside and aren’t going anywhere near Liverpool/Manchester. I think our nearest testing place is at Manchester Airport.


Obviously I can't comment on anywhere else but when I went, there really wasn't many people there. I went to a testing centre in a leisure centre, and there was quite a lot of space for people to walk in, via the car park, and there wasn't any bottlenecks. Judging by the amount of testing booths inside, it wasn't close to capacity. I went at about 3 PM in the afternoon.

Going into the testing centre I was practically on my own, got asked a couple of times if I had symptoms (I didn't) and was directed to the appropriate queue accordingly. Once you get inside the testing centre (where all the army blokes are) you are spaced individually out in two metre chevrons (even groups/families), everyone is wearing masks. I would say the risk of me catching it there was next to zero.

The online form you have to fill in is fairly lengthy, but the army chaps were on hand to help anyone who was struggling, and it's not like you'd be doing anything else in the queue anyway.

The whole experience (including the walk there and back) took about an hour out of my day.

And for anyone getting the test done, PLEASE remember to put the result into the NHS app afterwards. That's the only way it's registered and counted in the official statistics. When they text you the results, they send you two texts. The first contains the code that you need to input your result into the app, the second contains the result of the test :thumbsup:
 


Lyndhurst 14

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That's how you spend your time self quarantining - damn you Amazon you think of everything

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peterward

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Moderna's vaccine found to be 95% effective in early analysis:

https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1328306979568308225?s=19

94.5% amazing. Also said it's easier to transport than the Pfizer vaccine as can be held at much higher temps. Also like Pfizer it's an RNA vaccine (new technology).

In phase 3, 30k people, 15k vaccine, 15k placebo. all participants regularly tested for covid.

Placebo group had 90 cases of covid, 12 severe requiring hospitalisation/ventilation.

Drug group, 5 (I think ?) cases of covid, all mild/assymptomatic.

Result!

Bad news. We haven't bought any of this one yet.
 
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blue-shifted

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94.5% amazing. Also said it's easier to transport than the Pfizer vaccine as can be held at much higher temps. Also like Pfizer it's an RNA vaccine (new technology).

In phase 3, 30k people, 15k vaccine, 15k placebo. all participants regularly tested for covid.

Placebo group had 90 cases of covid, 12 severe requiring hospitalisation/ventilation.

Drug group, 5 (I think ?) cases of covid, all mild/assymptomatic.

Result!

Bad news. We haven't bought any of this one yet.

But it increases the chances even further that the other similar vaccines are going to be similarly successful and increases overall global supply. This is a wholly positive development and I commend this news to the thread
 


Poojah

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But it increases the chances even further that the other similar vaccines are going to be similarly successful and increases overall global supply. This is a wholly positive development and I commend this news to the thread

This in droves. Two weeks there was little certainty we would be able to produce even a moderately effective vaccine - days later we apparently have at least two, both of which appear to have higher efficacy than even the most optimistic of expert commentators had dared to predict. This bodes incredibly well for our short-term future.

It is indeed huge news, imo.
 






nickbrighton

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It is indeed huge news, imo.

In some ways I think this is bigger news than the first announcement. That could have been a one off vaccine, which while is amazing news on any scale,its difficult to store and distribute world wide due to the temperature requirements and realistically on its own doesn't solve the problem long term. The fact that there is a second one , also mid-high 90% effective, but easier to store and distribute indicates that there are likely to be a fair few highly effective vaccines in the quite short term, which will enable a vaccination program on a scale never before seen, and gives not just hope, but a real possibility that the end of this nightmare is (compared to the time scales thought likely just a month or so ago) not that far away.

If nothing else, this year is going to be remembered for centurys
 
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beorhthelm

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Moderna news is very good, more so than Pfizer as doesnt need highly specialised freezers. there's a bonus too, that this RNA approach is highly effective so will deal with many other diseases efficiently.

odd point that the UK hasn't signed up to supply yet, since we have already started rolling review of Moderna trails to accelerate licencing approval.
 




Herr Tubthumper

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Moderna news is very good, more so than Pfizer as doesnt need highly specialised freezers. there's a bonus too, that this RNA approach is highly effective so will deal with many other diseases efficiently.

odd point that the UK hasn't signed up to supply yet, since we have already started rolling review of Moderna trails to accelerate licencing approval.

I’m guessing Moderna is a lot cheaper as well? The Pfizer price is estimated at 20 dollars a shot.
 


Fungus

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94.5% amazing. Also said it's easier to transport than the Pfizer vaccine as can be held at much higher temps. Also like Pfizer it's an RNA vaccine (new technology).

In phase 3, 30k people, 15k vaccine, 15k placebo. all participants regularly tested for covid.

Placebo group had 90 cases of covid, 12 severe requiring hospitalisation/ventilation.

Drug group, 5 (I think ?) cases of covid, all mild/assymptomatic.

Result!

Bad news. We haven't bought any of this one yet.

So, it's been tested on FIVE people?
 


nickbrighton

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So, it's been tested on FIVE people?

no , its been tested on 15 000, of whom 5 got Covid, while the non vaccinated group had 90 cases- below explains it

The trial involved 30,000 people in the US with half being given two doses of the vaccine, four weeks apart. The rest had dummy injections.

The analysis was based on the first 95 to develop Covid-19 symptoms.

Only five of the Covid cases were in people given the vaccine, 90 were in those given the dummy treatment. The company says the vaccine is protecting 94.5% of people.

The data also shows there were 11 cases of severe Covid in the trial, but none happened in people who were immunised.
 


beorhthelm

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So, it's been tested on FIVE people?

its been tested on thousands. of those in the test that have contracted covid, 90 had the placebo and 5 had the vaccine. they conduct the trail by report once n number of people have contracted and looking at placebo/vaccine to judge how effective it was.
 




beorhthelm

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I’m guessing Moderna is a lot cheaper as well? The Pfizer price is estimated at 20 dollars a shot.

unfortunatly its more $35. they may have a lot of costs for building capcity as they arent an established commercial producer. i thought i read they had an agreement with AstraZeneca, though may be mistaken as they are doing the Oxford vaccine too (which is cheaper, about $2-5).
 


A1X

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Bad news. We haven't bought any of this one yet.

I don't know who has bought it but realistically it's good news if anyone is buying it as while we obviously focus a lot on this country and our lives it's just as important we are bringing the whole world along on this journey, as if we don't then we're just storing up problems for the future / leaving places behind.
 


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