Some very pertinent questions that remain unanswered.
The club and their self importance/arrogance
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Some very pertinent questions that remain unanswered.
SIMMO SAYS
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Don't take any notice of the 
mate---if what you say is true, you are in the right. The club e-mail me all the time about buying this and tat.Piss poor if a lot of people wasted time and effort for nothing.
mate---if what you say is true, you are in the right. The club e-mail me all the time about buying this and tat.Piss poor if a lot of people wasted time and effort for nothing.Pogue Mahone
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- Apr 30, 2011
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I know. My point was that he had reason to be annoyed, but that the reason he chose was a bit silly, really.
I am not sure the whole facts have been aired here, which is not a criticism of the OP, as he may not himself be in full possession of why the group were not given access.
The reason they were refused access on Thursday, had nothing to do with the new player arrival - we've signed three players so far this summer, and the training ground has still been open as usual with all three - but more due to previous misdemeanours (by individuals, not the group) on the previous two visits.
The booking was for the AITC community pitch, and users of the pitch are expected to abide by the club's (fairly strict) rules for obvious reasons. I understand, some members within this group had been warned previously of their behaviour, and AITC were advised of the group's ban a week in advance of their next booked session.
I would hope (and in fairness AITC are usually pretty good at this sort of thing) this was properly communicated... but I will need to check if the person who made the booking was made aware - and I will follow that up on Monday.
On a wider point, as a professional football club, our focus at the training ground is the development and training of elite footballers and ensuring the best possible environment for that work - and yes we expect all visitors, including those to the community pitch, to respect what we do and ensure their own behaviour is appropriate at all times. Thankfully, the vast majority of visitors do just this, but we have had some instances of one or two failing to do so.
The reason they were refused access on Thursday, had nothing to do with the new player arrival - we've signed three players so far this summer, and the training ground has still been open as usual with all three - but more due to previous misdemeanours (by individuals, not the group) on the previous two visits.
The booking was for the AITC community pitch, and users of the pitch are expected to abide by the club's (fairly strict) rules for obvious reasons. I understand, some members within this group had been warned previously of their behaviour, and AITC were advised of the group's ban a week in advance of their next booked session.
I would hope (and in fairness AITC are usually pretty good at this sort of thing) this was properly communicated... but I will need to check if the person who made the booking was made aware - and I will follow that up on Monday.
On a wider point, as a professional football club, our focus at the training ground is the development and training of elite footballers and ensuring the best possible environment for that work - and yes we expect all visitors, including those to the community pitch, to respect what we do and ensure their own behaviour is appropriate at all times. Thankfully, the vast majority of visitors do just this, but we have had some instances of one or two failing to do so.
Ernest
Stupid IDIOT
Always another side to the story perhaps [MENTION=561]Insider[/MENTION] can FURNISH us with the WHEREABOUTS of the 1983 FA Cup Final cash too ?
dejavuatbtn
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I am sure they do, but it's a shame there is no room for those companies responsible for ensuring the club is still in existence. Still, as there is hardly anyone employed by the club from those times, it is no surprise, and another reason why so many of the fans who supported them through those times are currently disgruntled.
Dick Swiveller
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- Sep 9, 2011
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Still stand by yourDon't take any notice of the
comment now? Random new poster posts unsubstantiated claims and seems to have gone running to a messageboard rather than contact the club. And turns out to be completely untrue.I would suggest that people who are desperate to believe such things with no proof or credence just so they can have a pop at the club they purport to support are more likely to be
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Hampster Gull
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- Dec 22, 2010
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Labour party spent it
Hungry Joe
SINNEN
Again, not trying to be smart, but is it really true that there is no room for those companies? Or is it that there is still room, but not at the same high-profile, due to the club being able to attract larger investors now? Also, the fact that few from back then are still employed by the club shouldn't be a reason for the values that they brought to the club to have disappeared per se. If that were the case then no organisation would ever be able to hold on to core values through generations, which simply isn't the case.
Diego Napier
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- Mar 27, 2010
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Corrected for you
As usual I'm left wondering why the fook did/does Tony bother with some of the most ungrateful fans in world soccer ball.
severnside gull
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Genuinely amusing to have both sides of the story. Which is not to denigrate the OP - clearly warnings and outcomes weren't shared with everyone. 
Return of the Rev
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Genuinely amusing to have both sides of the story. Which is not to denigrate the OP - clearly warnings and outcomes weren't shared with everyone.
clearly? easily convinced
Return of the Rev
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Because 22,000 would stump up top dollar for season tickets!
Just so they can say how s**t everything now is.
SIMMO SAYS
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Still stand by your
I would suggest that people who are desperate to believe such things with no proof or credence just so they can have a pop at the club they purport to support are more likely to be
You happily missed out the 'if what you say is true' bit,but------hey ho
314 random posts since Sep 2011 and this is one of your better ones----congratulations
Have you been locked up or just got poor internet
Hampster Gull
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- Dec 22, 2010
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The only conclusion I have, so far, is that TB is considerably more patient than me.And what have you,concluded
By now I'd have locked the Amex and fooked off to Aussieland, screaming obscenities all the way.
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Dick Swiveller
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- Sep 9, 2011
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Indeed. The club are far from perfect but the, quite frankly, gobsmacking ingratitude of an increasing number of people is very, very sad. There are quite a number that actively try and seek a tiny sniff of controversy so they can jump on their soapbox to start ranting. Offer a free breakfast to watch the fixture announcements and watch the complaints because of short notice, poor quality food etc. Let kids camp on the pitch for a night to try and cement a few long term fans and it is tinpot/embarrassing. Price things at a point where they will sell well and maximise player funds and it more indications of Barber squeezing every penny/the club ripping off long term fans. Release new kits that are a bit formulaic but will fly out for kids/youngsters/brand name fans and you are selling out/sunday league. And spend over £200 million on a football club with little likelihood of seeing any of it back and then try and run the club with sensible finances and you will be invited to leave or declared as lacking ambition.
For what it's worth, I'm not comfortable supporting a biggish club in the mad money world of modern football when I'm essentially funding a couple of days salary of a squad player with my (significant to me) contribution. And I have a nasty feeling that the club will try and squeeze people like me out of 1901 trying to chase the corporate pound when renewals are announced next year. But I gain solace from the fact that, within these boundaries, the powers that be appear to be trying to run in the best way possible. Investing in the future and not massively overspending for a short term gamble. Trying to make the training environment the best it can be and insisting on high standards of behaviour from all that attend. They have made mistakes in the past but on the whole seem to try and learn from them. Player recruitment being the most obvious example. And there is a growing disconnect at times between the club and the fans but sadly that is the nature of modern football. But on the whole, their heart is in the right place which makes the haters all the more sad.