The Brighton/Sussex +£4 a Pint Thread of Shame

[Goring Gull]

£2.50 - £3.00 although everyone moaned when it hit £2.00 then £3.00 a pint.

 

[Mendoza]

So if £4 is too expensive for a pint of beer, what should the price be? £1.50? £2? £3?

I'd like to think anywhere between £3 - £3.50 is reasonable.

I also noticed that the cigarette machine in Slug and Lettuce charge £8 (EIGHT) a pack. I hate smoking, but that is surely way over the odds

 

[Robbie G]

I'm just curious as to what people think should be 'the' price for a pint of beer. It's the same with petrol as that is rising considerably at the moment.

 

[kevtherev]

Ok, in realation with wage rises on average...Fair prices I belive would be £1 litre of petrol and maybe less. maybe 95 pence. A average pint of lager £2.80-£3.20.

 

[Goring Gull]

I still can't get over the £4 - I got charged £4 for a Peroni in Harrogate over a year ago and was less than impressed but 13 years ago i bought 3 bottles of becks in a club in London for the princely sum on £18!!!!! £6 each back then.

 

[beorhthelm]

I'm just curious as to what people think should be 'the' price for a pint of beer.

around about whatever Wetherspoons charge. if they can do a pint for £2.20, why cant other pubs do so for around the same. especially brewery pubs.

 

[raymondbriggs]

Why should the pubs be shamed for increasing prices due to the VAT increase? What do you expect them to do absorb the costs so you can afford an extra shandy and end up going out of business?

Typical ignorant attitude in this country.

Beer duty in 2010 was set on the formula of £17.32 for every 1% of strength per 100 litres .At an average strength of 4% thats £69.28p per 100 litres. 100 litres =176 pints or
BEER DUTY IS 40p PER PINT
VAT is price dependant so the more the brewers grab the more tax we pay.
The ONLYreason beer is so overpriced in pubs is because the brewers want tied pubs to fail as there is an easy short term profit to be made by closing pubs and obtaining planning permision to convert"unviable" large pub sites into housing stock.

 

[raymondbriggs]

around about whatever Wetherspoons charge. if they can do a pint for £2.20, why cant other pubs do so for around the same. especially brewery pubs.

please see my post.Weatherspoons can do it because the duty is relatively low but in tied pubs the brewers greed is immensly high.

 

[Spun Cuppa]

around about whatever Wetherspoons charge. if they can do a pint for £2.20, why cant other pubs do so for around the same. especially brewery pubs.

Spoons can do it that cheap because they don't have Sky Sports or music licenses, and have fewer staff than comparably sized establishments, and have massive buying power when it comes to sourcing their beer. They also do reasonably priced food throughout the day...

 

[raymondbriggs]

Spoons can do it that cheap because they don't have Sky Sports or music licenses, and have fewer staff than comparably sized establishments, and have massive buying power when it comes to sourcing their beer. They also do reasonably priced food throughout the day...

And unlike the brewers spoons dont rip people off-but still make a massive profit on a sub £2 pint.
do the maths,charge £2 a pint V.A.T 40p of that,£4 a pint?give the tory scum 80p.

 

[ArfurW8]

Wetherspoons do have massive bulk buying power which helps keep prices low.I can remember years ago a pub landlord I knew could buy Schweppes mixers cheaper from a local supplier than he could direct from Schweppes.

Also some of the pub landlords are on leases from the pub companies that are so one sided that it is almost impossible to make a good living from beer alone,hence they push the food and wine sales more.

£2-60 to £3-20 seems a fair price to me depending on the pub or where it is,after that I get a bit twitchy.

 

[beorhthelm]

Spoons can do it that cheap because they don't have Sky Sports or music licenses, and have fewer staff than comparably sized establishments, and have massive buying power when it comes to sourcing their beer. They also do reasonably priced food throughout the day...

thats largly bollocks. how many pubs charge £3.50 and dont have sky or music? quite alot. £2k is the cost of Sky and if you dont draw in the dozen punters to cover that on a dozen game days a month, then dont have it - simple economics. staffing in a typical boozer is 3 or 4 verses maybe 5 or 6 in the wetherspoons. when it comes to buying power, they cant get it cheaper than the breweries themselves could provide to their tied houses. in fact its pretty common for tied pubs to be more expensive than non tied in my experience, showing that the buying power is false arguement. the spoonies is also probaly a much larger premises and therefore higher rent, rates and maintainence costs. they are just well run and target a market apparently shunned by many other pubs.

its simply down to greed of the pub and bar owners (as in the freeholders). the market bears is so they carry on - again simple economics. except all those pubs where they cant and they would rather just shut to sell the land as pointed out (though i think thats more a pubco issue than breweries). often those a ropey pubs where the drinkers would just as happily sit at home. sadly we lose a few good pubs along the way.

thats all beside the point. Wetherspoons shows the sort of prices that are viable for a business, that a good yard stick to say what prices should be at.

 

[The Spanish]

Beer duty in 2010 was set on the formula of £17.32 for every 1% of strength per 100 litres .At an average strength of 4% thats £69.28p per 100 litres. 100 litres =176 pints or
BEER DUTY IS 40p PER PINT
VAT is price dependant so the more the brewers grab the more tax we pay.
The ONLYreason beer is so overpriced in pubs is because the brewers want tied pubs to fail as there is an easy short term profit to be made by closing pubs and obtaining planning permision to convert"unviable" large pub sites into housing stock.

pretty much other pub round my way has been converted into flats over the last 10 years. the only ones left are the spoons.

 

[Safeway]

£6.35 for a pint of Becks and half a Coke in the Sport Cafe last night.

And £4.10 for a BOTTLE of San Miguel at the Piccadilly Theatre.

 

[Dr. Notthenineo'clocknews]

thats largly bollocks. how many pubs charge £3.50 and dont have sky or music? quite alot. £2k is the cost of Sky

some friends of mine were quoted 18k pa for sky, that's a huge chunk of 'bottom line'

 

[JJ McClure]

The ONLYreason beer is so overpriced in pubs is because the brewers want tied pubs to fail as there is an easy short term profit to be made by closing pubs and obtaining planning permision to convert"unviable" large pub sites into housing stock.

Spot on. The Pub I work at is tied to a brewery and we HAVE to buy our beer from them, hence they charge as much as they want and there's nowt we can do about it. Two other pubs on my way to work have closed in the past year and both now have hordings around and the builders moving in.

 

[JJ McClure]

thats largly bollocks. how many pubs charge £3.50 and dont have sky or music? quite alot. £2k is the cost of Sky and if you dont draw in the dozen punters to cover that on a dozen game days a month, then dont have it - simple economics.

I was told Sky for the pub would be a bag of sand per month?

 

[The Maharajah of Sydney]

£12 for 5 pints .
Quality stuff .
Erdinger , Franziskaner , Hoegaarden etc ..,

ZIZZLE | Melbourne Deals of the Day

 

[Cecil]

I was told Sky for the pub would be a bag of sand per month?

I think the rate depends on the size of the boozer.

 

[beorhthelm]

And £4.10 for a BOTTLE of San Miguel at the Piccadilly Theatre.

i have nver understood bottle drinkers and their acceptance of paying same price as pint or more for only half-2/3 a pint. people know what it costs as they buy exactly the same thing in the super market for £10 a dozen or 18 (so 50-85p bottle). at least draft can pretend/claim to be a better taste. buy a half instead.

some friends of mine were quoted 18k pa for sky, that's a huge chunk of 'bottom line'

I was told Sky for the pub would be a bag of sand per month?

my 2k was per month, so seems its available cheaper? basically none of the arguments for high pub prices wash.