[TV] The Apprentice 2024

[WhingForPresident]

The guy that looks like a magician is doing my head in.

 

[Beach Hut]

I don't disagree with your assessment of Asif but come on, that Paul was an absolute moron. That task was lost because of his inability to read the room over chocolate and his astonishing lack of negotiation skills. He was useless, although not as useless as Vridi was last week and he survived.

Surely Virdi and Asif will be out soon enough.

True, I noticed the boys PM from last week kept a very low profile

 

[Peacehaven Wild Kids]

I only watch the bit at the end where they get the gooner.

No idea why though, it’s painful to watch someone happily throw someone else under the bus whilst screaming “well I did this” or “I did that”

That Asif was a classic example, imagine working under him for a big company if he was your supervisor/middle manager, what a total brown nose.

It’s a concept I’ll never understand.

 

[Ⓩ-Ⓐ-Ⓜ-Ⓞ-Ⓡ-Ⓐ]

The girls are mikes ahead of the boys, what I don’t get is ar they allowed to google anything?

Google Search: "how to use brain"

 

[Simster]

The girl who negotiated £13 a cheesecake was absolutely superb. Not only that, but when the predictably shite efforts were delivered, she still renegotiated a very reasonable £11 price. She was not just unusually competent, but truly excellent.

Surely there is absolutely no way she isn't in the final, right?

 

[McTavish]

No, they aren't allowed to Google anything, otherwise things like the shopping/haggling task would be incredibly easy, they'd just source all the stuff online rather than having to use a Yellow Pages.

Recent series the show has become a lot more about stitching the candidates up than actually seeking how good they are to be honest, they often have to come up with their exact concept before they have met the corporate client for instance, like having to plan an entire away day including food without even knowing who the client is or what they expect. It's a proper hiding to nothing

This exactly.

There are clearly rules about phone use and all sorts of other things to increase the chances of abject failure. For example, why wouldn't the men's project manager on the corporate away day task have just phoned and said, "we're going to be a bit late, hold off on the cooking."

There is also the whole ridiculous negotiation thing. The woman who negotiated the cheesecake deal and managed to only get a couple of quid taken off for the disasters they produced was actually very good but in the real world no-one would pay over £13.00 for an individual cheesecake from a bunch of people who they know have never made a cheesecake in their lives and when presented with the finished article wouldn't have said, "f*** off, I'm not paying for that!"

The men's team's problem yesterday was actually that the Project Manager had some real life experience. Turners Pies sell a fruit pie that feeds 5 people for just over £8.00 so he knew that there was no way in the world that a business selling shit cheesecakes for the same price would succeed. He was right in theory, but he forgot that people will do almost anything when they are on TV. I know a guy who was one of the "Corporate Clients" a few years back. he was pitched a gin which looked like piss and had a mildly racist name and his company actually bought some!

It's just a TV game show and I shouldn't give it so much head-space. It infuriates me but I still get sucked in every. single. year.

Anyway, my favourite shot from last night. This is what business is all about - random charts! It's so dynamic!

 

[hans kraay fan club]

This exactly.

There are clearly rules about phone use and all sorts of other things to increase the chances of abject failure. For example, why wouldn't the men's project manager on the corporate away day task have just phoned and said, "we're going to be a bit late, hold off on the cooking."

There is also the whole ridiculous negotiation thing. The woman who negotiated the cheesecake deal and managed to only get a couple of quid taken off for the disasters they produced was actually very good but in the real world no-one would pay over £13.00 for an individual cheesecake from a bunch of people who they know have never made a cheesecake in their lives and when presented with the finished article wouldn't have said, "f*** off, I'm not paying for that!"

The men's team's problem yesterday was actually that the Project Manager had some real life experience. Turners Pies sell a fruit pie that feeds 5 people for just over £8.00 so he knew that there was no way in the world that a business selling shit cheesecakes for the same price would succeed. He was right in theory, but he forgot that people will do almost anything when they are on TV. I know a guy who was one of the "Corporate Clients" a few years back. he was pitched a gin which looked like piss and had a mildly racist name and his company actually bought some!

It's just a TV game show and I shouldn't give it so much head-space. It infuriates me but I still get sucked in every. single. year.

Anyway, my favourite shot from last night. This is what business is all about - random charts! It's so dynamic!

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The biggest question is why the girls came dressed as a Pride flag.

 

[Bozza]

Just watched it...

Expected the girls to be laughed out of the meeting with their pricepoint but because the "client" negotiated weakly, they won.

And that's the unknown bit of these tasks - how are the "clients" briefed by the show's producers to behave, interact and negotiate. Maybe their brief was "whatever price they come to you with, don't accept it and knock them down a bit", so the girl's may have won just through sheer luck of going ridiculously high and not being knocked back to a more realistic level.

I'm not sure I posted after last week, but Pie-man actually impressed me in that task. At the beginning he was the only one who seemed to understand they needed to know how much stuff was going to cost before they could decide on a selling price. Everyone else just seemed to want to pluck a price out of the air, with no science nor methodology behind it at all.

The client probably doesn't pay much more than £13 per head when they have catered staff buffets put on - there's no way they'd go anywhere near that for a single cheesecake.

 

[Diablo]

I honestly thought £13 for a box of six would be the right price. Were they much more than a mouthfull ??

Surprised that Asifs talk in the Boardroom didn`t get him the boot. Will be interesting to see how he gets on next week. My guess is he`s already thinking how to blame someone else.

 

[ROSM]

We should all ask PBOBE after all, he was pitched so god awful sweets a couple of years ago just because he is mates with Claude

 

[Stato]

Christ knows what London Dungeon were charging their punters for them after getting roasted to the tune of £11 each. Mindboggling.

Nothing. They chucked them all in a skip.

Then they sent their seemingly hopeless negotiators into the audience of the BBC2 sister show to get joshed about getting taken, whilst maximising their product placement on primetime BBC.

A primetime add on ITV costs somewhere between £10k and £35k. London Dungeon and Innocent Smoothies each got one on the BBC for about £500.

 

[Weststander]

In recent seasons imho, ten minutes in you can virtually tell which team will win, by sensing the profit or loss. Usually from a huge gaff on sales pricing. Last night it was obvious the bloke’s were heading for defeat with corporate pricing at a small fraction of the ladies.

I hate that, the jeopardy is removed from the remaining 50 minutes.

Not sure if the editing used to be more clever to suggest nip and tuck?

 

[A1X]

We should all ask PBOBE after all, he was pitched so god awful sweets a couple of years ago just because he is mates with Claude

Amusingly they still left the Albion with a better deal than any of the Chelsea negotiators who’ve turned up have managed

 

[Easy 10]

Nothing. They chucked them all in a skip.

Then they sent their seemingly hopeless negotiators into the audience of the BBC2 sister show to get joshed about getting taken, whilst maximising their product placement on primetime BBC.

A primetime add on ITV costs somewhere between £10k and £35k. London Dungeon and Innocent Smoothies each got one on the BBC for about £500.

Well I learned nothing about London Dungeon from that exposure, other than if I fancied a mini cheesecake there then I'd best check my overdraft first.

 

[Ooh it’s a corner]

Mrs Corner heard the Irish girl on the radio recently. Apparently they really do get called at 4am and their phones have to be surrendered when they start the programme

 

[The Mole]

The girl who negotiated £13 a cheesecake was absolutely superb. Not only that, but when the predictably shite efforts were delivered, she still renegotiated a very reasonable £11 price. She was not just unusually competent, but truly excellent.

Surely there is absolutely no way she isn't in the final, right?

I’m really confused as to why she is in the competition- someone who understands how to negotiate has no place in the Apprentice- doesn’t she understand that the programme is there to make us all feel smug about how much better we are than these people

 

[ROSM]

The girl who negotiated £13 a cheesecake was absolutely superb. Not only that, but when the predictably shite efforts were delivered, she still renegotiated a very reasonable £11 price. She was not just unusually competent, but truly excellent.

Surely there is absolutely no way she isn't in the final, right?

Ah but you wait til she has to find a vintage cloche or a dangle wangler in barnsley flea market. That will level her out. Or indeed have to perform a voiceover in a skin tight green catsuit. Thats what real business people do

 

[jonny.rainbow]

The BBC have posted an article with a spoiler giving away which candidate leaves tonight.

The candidate has been accused of posting antisemitic comments on social media.

Hopefully it will be a double-firing to maintain some element of surprise.

 

[bluenitsuj]

The girl who negotiated £13 a cheesecake was absolutely superb. Not only that, but when the predictably shite efforts were delivered, she still renegotiated a very reasonable £11 price. She was not just unusually competent, but truly excellent.

Surely there is absolutely no way she isn't in the final, right?

All depends on the business plan.

 

[Surrey Phil]

The BBC have posted an article with a spoiler giving away which candidate leaves tonight.

The candidate has been accused of posting antisemitic comments on social media.

Hopefully it will be a double-firing to maintain some element of surprise.

The BBC article doesn’t actually say he’s leaving tonight though!