[Other Sport] The Academy Awards

[Swansman]

Ok, I can take that point, but this:

...this is nonsense. The most socially acceptable way of dealing with it is for the Smiths to have simply walked out in disgust if they really felt that making a joke about hair-loss was so dreadful. Personally, I don't think it's nice to be making jokes about illnesses, but from my position of admittedly not having been touched by this illness, it feels like it's hurtful but ultimately trivial in the grand scheme of things. I certainly feel it's a dangerous path to be justifying Will Smith's behaviour.

Yes, thats the most socially acceptable way in todays society: if you see injustice, dont confront it, just walk away. Just like not talking to strangers or not singing in public is the socially acceptable way of doing things... But I dont always do socially acceptable, as I believe a whole lot of the oversocialisation of society is destructive, cowardly and counter-productive. And I'm happy to see that some others appears to refuse to be conformed into adhering to the social rules of our stale, depressive and weak society. Indeed it is dangerous; dangerous to our transformation into a submissive and pathetic species.

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

For Smith. I reckon he'll do well out of it. A bit of notoriety never did anyone harm in Hollywood.

For Rock. The response he got was just about in the range of predictable outcomes. I think he'll do badly out of it, future work-wise

For Mrs Smith. It's not really about her past. The was a pretty mean comment

 

[BadFish]

Why? Maybe it took him three seconds and a glance at his wife to grasp that it was really mean. Sometimes it takes people a moment to understand the true meaning of what they hear.

As for the reaction... today it would be more socially acceptable to walk out, write some sentimental shite on Instagram and add some crying "emojis" or whatever. Not long ago, you'd be expected to confront the idiot harrassing your wife. I'm not in the ""we live in the best of all possible worlds" school, I dont think human behaviour is on some righteous path to perfection... if we are, then the nuclear armageddon cant come soon enough - and I say that out of pure empathy for the whole mankind... I prefer the Will Smith way of doing it.

I agree with you, however it does appear that there is a whole lot more to this story that we don't know about.

I can't dispute the idea that the relationship between Mr and Mrs Smith may have had an effect on what happened because I don't know the details of their relationship. FWIW I am not going to know either because I am not nearly interested in either of them.

One thing I would add is the observation that we have moved towards a 'roast' type model for these awards ceremonies. Given that these are unsolicited, is it really surprising that someone has got upset about it? Especially actors, who are are known for being a little precious.

 

[Ding Dong !]

For once in my life, i've suddenly become quite interested in the Oscars ceremony...........albeit for the wrong reasons. Highly entertaining

Rest of it is absolute

 

[Pondicherry]

I think the key issue is, was it a punch? If it was a punch, it was a sucker punch (poor form) and it failed to have much impact on the 4ft tall Mr Rock.

If it was a slap, is it correct protocol to slap another man in a fight?

 

[Stato]

Yes, thats the most socially acceptable way in todays society: if you see injustice, dont confront it, just walk away.

There was no injustice. There was a comedian who was telling jokes about famous people as part of a long tradition of roasting in American showbiz events. Laughing along at the jokes about everybody else and then slapping the comedian because the joke was on you and yours is not an act of chivalry, its the action of a spoiled 'Do you know who I am?' type diva. Smith will be insulated from the consequences by his fame, but, as has already been mentioned by some stand ups, if you accept his action, then you accept the action of anybody who wants to go on stage and physically assault a comedian because they didn't like something they said.

 

[sydney]

Because when I was younger the Fresh Prince of Bel Air was a show i'd never miss watching weekly.

And when they came out on DVD I bought them all!

Sad to see how Will has been dragged down by this harpee.

i find that really odd for some strange reason.....

 

[zefarelly]

I think the key issue is, was it a punch? If it was a punch, it was a sucker punch (poor form) and it failed to have much impact on the 4ft tall Mr Rock.

If it was a slap, is it correct protocol to slap another man in a fight?

I couldn't give a flying Farquar about any of it, but having stumbled upon the clip on the BBC website , it was a proper Hollywood bitch slap

a great career move. a proper punch in the face wouldn't have gone down so well even if it was justified.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

I’m shocked Gervais managed to get out of hosting the Golden Globes without being slapped if that is the bar.

More people will remember the joke, look it up now rather than it just being forgotten.

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

I agree with you, however it does appear that there is a whole lot more to this story that we don't know about.

I can't dispute the idea that the relationship between Mr and Mrs Smith may have had an effect on what happened because I don't know the details of their relationship. FWIW I am not going to know either because I am not nearly interested in either of them.

One thing I would add is the observation that we have moved towards a 'roast' type model for these awards ceremonies. Given that these are unsolicited, is it really surprising that someone has got upset about it? Especially actors, who are are known for being a little precious.

Well if you watched the actual show you'd know because they already lambasted them in an earlier joke.

It's not unsolicited though. Adam Carola spoke about how he helped write Jimmy Kimmel's jokes when he hosted it and how they all get vetted and some make the cut and others don't.

Hitting Rock is like shooting the messenger.

The academy green lit those jokes and others helped write them.

 

[sydney]

i believe the overbearing question brought to light by the bitch slapping of Chris Rock by Will Smith , in the current global climate , is , why does anyone actually give a flying ****...?? really..??

 

[Durlston]

Will Smith has gone up in my estimation. That right hook had to hurt. The 'comedian' was terrible.

Protect your family at all costs. He had every right to defend his wife.

 

[BadFish]

i believe the overbearing question brought to light by the bitch slapping of Chris Rock by Will Smith , in the current global climate , is , why does anyone actually give a flying ****...?? really..??

Its funny,

funnier than Will Smith has been for many years and funnier than Chris Rock has ever been.

If someone promises to slap Ricky Gervais I may even be persuaded to watch the Golden Globes this year.

 

[Swansman]

There was no injustice. There was a comedian who was telling jokes about famous people as part of a long tradition of roasting in American showbiz events. Laughing along at the jokes about everybody else and then slapping the comedian because the joke was on you and yours is not an act of chivalry, its the action of a spoiled 'Do you know who I am?' type diva. Smith will be insulated from the consequences by his fame, but, as has already been mentioned by some stand ups, if you accept his action, then you accept the action of anybody who wants to go on stage and physically assault a comedian because they didn't like something they sai.

Nah, what is spoiled is when a healthy person makes jokes on behalf of a sick person, because you are kicking downwards which is what spoiled people do. You are right I would accept someone beating a comedian making a joke directed at a specific person suffering from a disease. In your world it might be perfectly fine to make some "why dont you give the girl some of your food?" to a fat guy with a daughter suffering from anorexia, or doing the "remember Alzheimers day" joke to someone diagnosed with it, or if someone has AIDS you could of course make a joke "didnt you make a song about AIDS? Its really catchy...". Of course you can think that is fair and okay. In my world - and apparently in Wills as well - you are allowd to beat the shit out of the person making any of those jokes.

 

[Wozza]

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[sydney]

Its funny,

funnier than Will Smith has been for many years and funnier than Chris Rock has ever been.

If someone promises to slap Ricky Gervais I may even be persuaded to watch the Golden Globes this year.

i used to hate him but now i like him , The Office used to grind my gears but is sense of humour is callous, cruel, uncaring and sadistic .......i dig it ...!!

The only person likely to slap him is Paul Weller.

i don't watch any of it , brain softening shyte.

 

[Wozza]

Will Smith has gone up in my estimation. That right hook had to hurt. That 'comedian' was terrible.

Protect your family at all costs. He had every right to defend his wife.

Famously, they have a open relationship. Apparently you can sleep with Will Smith's wife, but can't make a joke about her. Welcome to Hollywood.

 

[patchamalbion]

Ricky Gervais has been on for a slap for 10 years and Chris Rock goes and takes one off an eventual Oscar winner ��

It is an opinion divider. On the one hand he’s mocked the guys wife’s illness and he’s done what many on here claim they would do in sticking up for his wife/family.

On the other, this goes on at most award ceremonies and if everyone used violence as a response it would be chaos. It’s not the professional thing to do and I imagine he’s regretting it - especially as his initial reaction was to laugh at the joke!!

The funniest thing on the BBC article was Rocks joke about JPS in 2016 where many boycotted due to a lack of minority representation, “Jada Pinkett Smith boycotting the Oscars is like me boycotting Rhianna's’ panties - I wasn’t invited anyway”

 

[Springal]

How was he allowed to do that and stay in the place?

If I didn't like a joke by a Comedian at the Dome, I'm pretty sure I'd not get away with getting up on stage and slapping them

 

[Swansman]

Could any of you defending Chris Rock saying his joke was perfectly normal mention a previous example where a "comedian" made fun of a specific persons illness at the Academy Awards?

I realise that in here there is a lot of fat bald toothless men who cant see the harm in the joke but for a woman suffering from alopecia it can cause severe mental distress.