papachris
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Do you think Catherine Jenkins knows he using her music?
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Do you think Catherine Jenkins knows he using her music?
In the first video he looks like one of those geeky virgins at the sixth form prom who's too shy to ask any pretty girl to dance and so just rocks in the corner out of rhythm with the actual music.
He looks nothing like me at 18 thanks.
How is this mess, irrespective of his politics, a contender to be US President?
I struggle to see how he's a serious candidate who appeals to anyone.
BadFish
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With a clown in opposition it is hard to effectively focus on the government's shortcomings. It is similar to the UK when the clowns were in government and the result is another extremal poor government.
Championing a government and ignoring their shortcomings in fear of the clowns is not a healthy democracy.
I keep saying it but to me it is astonishing that people with actual working brains are supportive of this shit. We have a couple on here who still after pages and pages on this thread haven't managed a single coherent fact based reason to vote for the clown (the closest from what I read was that he was a bit better and a bit younger than Biden).
But here we are (or they are) on a f***ing knife edge!
BadFish
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- Oct 19, 2003
- 18,216
He doesn't even seem fit to be president of one of this own golf clubs. But leader of the free world, bring it on!
It is strange, isn't it.
Usually that sort of popularity (70 million voters) is because some want to be you and others want to be f***ed by you.
I can't imagine anyone aspiring to either, frankly.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Trump is being used by the Republicans as a vote magnet, then within months he will be ‘retired’ for health reasons so Vance can take over.
Since Brexit and Trump 2016, nothing suprises me. "People" get their information and views from their own echo chamber, on both sides. It's a minority (imho) who try and see both sides and decide based on policy, by actually reading and knowing stuff. Harris needs to throw more mud around and shout louder, resort to the same tactics, make it more interesting.
I'll describe a friend of mine in the US. You tell me who they vote for...
- Female
- University educated
- Bright
- Funny
- Socially aware
- Lives in Southern California
...you've guessed she votes Trump, because I wouldn't be asking otherwise.
In our discussions around this, I think it really comes down to the belief that Trump is better for a strong US economy, and a strong US economy is best for her family's ongoing prosperity and quality of life.
A few years ago her husband lost his job and it took him a fair while to find another one. I know she was genuinely concerned they would lose their home and find themselves in a bad financial position in a country that doesn't do a great job of looking after those who fall on hard times.
And I guess I can empathise with that, regardless of my incredulity as to how anyone could believe Trump is capable to lead the US.
Yep. @lasvegan would agree with that no doubt. If I were a US resident I would do my voter sums using very different equations than I would use here, in socialist Britain. I'd like to think I'd make the same choice as I can make as a non US voter, but I can't be certain of that.
If Trump wins they won't miss the next time as it will be from within.
herecomesaregular
We're in the pipe, 5 by 5
Yes, yes, yes but I find belief in this more bizarre than voting for the weirdo nutcase himself.
BN41Albion
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- Oct 1, 2017
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This is precisely the problem now, and (imo) why we're now seeing a rise in populist, far right figures across Europe and further afield. Ignorant folk who see no way out from their own troubles who live within their own echo chamber on social media, so far down the rabbit hole that there's no hope of them even contemplating a different reality.
It seriously blows my mind, though, that there are folk this side of the pond - like the couple of posters on here - who have managed to find themselves so far down the Trump rabbit hole. At least if you're born and raised small town 'Merica you can better understand why that might happen.
Hasn't helped, of course, that opposition governments haven't done enough at all in trying to understanding the problems that have led to people voting for populist figures - instead mostly just throwing mud (see France as a prime example). To be fair, Harris has done a good job, but there are far too many millions of people in the States totally lost to the Maga cult unfortunately
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aolstudios
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Well, exactly
Such an odd system in the US. Early mail-in votes I can understand - but polling booths opening three weeks before the election day mystifies me.
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US Seagull
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It boggles the mind that after driving the economy into a ditch last time. A ditch that Biden has just pulled us out of, anybody could think Trump would be better on the economy. It would be like giving the keys back to a drunk driver right after the tow truck just pulled their car back on to the road.
And as for not looking after people who fell on hard times? Anybody who thinks the GOP would be better is, frankly, mad.
US Seagull
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I don't know about Georgia, but in Cuyahoga county there is only one place you can go vote early, and that's at the board of elections in downtown Cleveland.Such an odd system in the US. Early mail-in votes I can understand - but polling booths opening three weeks before the election day mystifies me.
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Easy 10
Brain dead MUG SHEEP
For most MAGA's, its basically a protest vote against "the establishment". They throw their weight behind an endlessly lying, shambling goon with terrible hair, who spouts populist buffoonery amongst an endless stream of absolute BOLLOCKS and BULLSHIT, because in the voters minds, its one in the eye for congress, and shakes things up a bit. Yee-haw.
Sound familiar ?
Sound familiar ?
There was a good analysis of this the other day that I posted a link too. In a nutshell, people’s perceptions of ‘when the economy was better’ now bear little relation to recent/current reality and facts. So even if, statistically and factually, Trump’s term was shit for the economy and Biden’s better, people hanker after ‘change from this’ and ‘going back to when it was better’ regardless. It’s not just a MAGA thing, it’s across society, and a sobering reason why Harris isn’t winning the economic issue the way she should be.