Yes. He was ousted as the presidential candidate. His replacement has now been officially selected as the new candidate.
But calling it a coup is willfully misrepresenting it and typical Trump (and his followers) rhetoric
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But calling it a coup is willfully misrepresenting it and typical Trump (and his followers) rhetoric
That's not true. I will explain:
1) He could be fit to run again, but consider that he doesn't have a good chance of winning the next election, so step down from the race for the next president.
2) He/his team could consider that he's fit now, and will still be fit in a year's time, but not be fit in 2 or 3 year's time, when there's 1.5 to 2.5 year's left of the presidency, so decide that it best he steps down now.
Trump is older than Biden was when he was last running, and Trump is already becoming incoherent. Trump isn't fit to be president now, but in a couple of year's time he'll be even more of a joke.
And the Wuhan labs isn't even a conspiracy theory, that's a mainstream theory. The whole world has always been suspicious of China's version of events, given that they stopped the international experts from investigating it.
StonehamPark
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Fully agree. It’s good to see that accurately stated as many still refuse to use those terms.
Officially selected by the party, though not by the people. This is where the blues and reds split their differences.
Fully agree.
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The only person who could make Biden withdraw from the race was Biden himself. There are no mechanisms for forcibly removing a Presidential presumptive nominee candidate from the ballot for either Party (as SC found out when they tried to remove Trump from the ballot under Art 3 of the 14th Amendment because he had been convicted of engaging in insurrection by indictment. Biden took the decision to withdraw for the good of the Country as it was becoming increasingly clear his age was becoming a serious impediment to a successful campaign.
Er, not sure the point being made here but if we are going to make a comparative analysis of the two main parties’ democratic procedures of electing a Presidential nominee, the outcome is less deleterious to the Dems than it is for the Republicans:
Unlike the Republicans, the Dems do not have rules that bound pledged delegates to use their vote at Convention to vote for the same candidate they won pledges for in the primaries - that rule actually makes the final vote for the Presidential nominee less controlled by a smaller concentration of members.
As for ‘reds and blues spitting their differences’ afa nominating candidates at primary stage, it is the Republicans who should be giving cause for concern in that regard:
Some States still have closed primaries meaning only those registered with a particular party can vote at that party’s primaries or caucus - (In recent decades, more States had been moving to open primaries).
However, recently the Republicans are moving towards imposing even more closed primaries and ‘weaponizing the election process to impose purity tests on partisanship and ideology’. It’s really disingenuous and biased thinking to accuse the Democrats of ‘undemocratically ousting’ a Democratic candidate that won the most pledges in the primaries when those primaries don’t pin down the delegates to vote for him anyway (and he voluntarily withdrew) whilst not even acknowledging that the Republicans are actively trying to remove the few democratic procedures there are at the roots of the electoral system and preventing even more of the ”people” from voting in primaries.
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I think this is going to be an absolute blow out election, Trump is going to fully implode long before election day and the Democrats will get out and vote. Hopefully it's going to be a clean sweep of the presidency, Senate and the House of Representatives so the Harris administration's first term can really get legislation written and passed. The Supreme Court needs serious reform, president Biden has started that work and a Harris administration could get that over the line.
Quite amusing listening to a podcast this morning that has noticed that Trump keeps conflating asylum seekers and insane asylums.
He genuinely doesn't seem to understand the difference between the two. The man is SPECTACULARLY thick.
It's a bit like when Michael Jackson was alive - I don't feel we'll fully appreciate quite how weird he was until after he's passed.
He genuinely doesn't seem to understand the difference between the two. The man is SPECTACULARLY thick.
It's a bit like when Michael Jackson was alive - I don't feel we'll fully appreciate quite how weird he was until after he's passed.
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Was the Manson business not all black and white?
Was watching the excellent Beach Boys docu on Disney Plus didn't realise that both Dennis Wilson and Mike Love had hook ups with two of the Manson family, Love was quite candid in the interview.
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Remember, he's not senile according to his supporters:
www.theguardian.com
Just can't tell Wille Brown from Jerry Brown and had a helicopter ride with an emergency landing which neither Willie or Jerry say actually happened.
Chopper whopper: Willie Brown shoots down Trump’s helicopter story
Trump apparently misremembered a flight with then California governor Jerry Brown during a press conference
www.theguardian.com
Just can't tell Wille Brown from Jerry Brown and had a helicopter ride with an emergency landing which neither Willie or Jerry say actually happened.
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In terms of his possible association with the CIA and MKUltra, in combination with his long-term probation officer, amongst other details, it’s super murky.
The book delves deep into all of this and is massively eye opening regarding the crazy things the US Govt. did in the 50’s-70’s with drug experimentation on its citizens.
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Your prediliction for conspiracy theories is fascinating
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Remember, he's not senile according to his supporters:
Chopper whopper: Willie Brown shoots down Trump’s helicopter story
Trump apparently misremembered a flight with then California governor Jerry Brown during a press conference
Just can't tell Wille Brown from Jerry Brown and had a helicopter ride with an emergency landing which neither Willie or Jerry say actually happened.
I guess the ‘crash’ he nearly died in mushed up his brains a bit
StonehamPark
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Put me back on ignore poppet.Your prediliction for conspiracy theories is fascinating
You’ve proven to get far too sensitive during our interactions.
The Beach Boys actually recorded the Manson penned song 'Cease to Exist" which he wrote specifically for them. The Beach Boys changed the title to ' lNever Learn Not to Love', changed a few lyrics and credited it to Dennis Wilson.
Apparently some of Trump's evangelical followers have been sharing this pic of Trump with "Jesus" not realising it's actually Charles Manson...
StonehamPark
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Wow, you’re further gone than I realized.
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Yep that’s me.
Left of centre, no time for conspiracy theorists, apologists for Trumpism, those who like to repeat Trump’s criticism of Harris as their own, or people who troll others with laughter emojis and ad hominen barbed comments because they disagree with them politically but are too weak to admit it.
Have a nice day.
StonehamPark
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Because you do none of those things.Yep that’s me.
Left of centre, no time for conspiracy theoriests, apologists for Trumpism or people who troll others with laughter emojis and ad hominen barbed comments because they disagree with them politically.
Have a nice day.
How very self aware you are.
Goodnight petal.