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[Politics] The 2024 US Election - *MATCH DAY*

Who will win the 2024 Presidential Election?

  • President Joe Biden - Democrat

    Votes: 3 0.7%
  • Donald Trump - Republican

    Votes: 173 41.9%
  • Vice President, Kamala Harris - Democrat

    Votes: 217 52.5%
  • Other Democratic candidate tbc

    Votes: 20 4.8%

  • Total voters
    413
  • This poll will close: .






Tyrone Biggums

Well-known member
Jun 25, 2006
13,498
Geelong, Australia
I don’t like the Republicans or the Democrats, I think US politics is almost as f***ed up as British politics. However, the two parties are unrecognisable from their incarnations during slavery and the formation of the KKK.

Blame lies with the parties and with the people who tolerate their policies.

The plantation owner mentality is still strong in the Democrat Party.

They think they own the blacks and their vote.

Watch how they speak and deal with Cornell West and his independent run.

They will smear him and berate him for daring to give black voters another voting option and if they lose they will blame him for "splitting the vote".
 


The Clamp

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jan 11, 2016
26,182
West is BEST
The plantation owner mentality is still strong in the Democrat Party.

They think they own the blacks and their vote.

Watch how they speak and deal with Cornell West and his independent run.

They will smear him and berate him for daring to give black voters another voting option and if they lose they will blame him for "splitting the vote".
An interesting take. I’ll look out for that.
 


Tyrone Biggums

Well-known member
Jun 25, 2006
13,498
Geelong, Australia
An interesting take. I’ll look out for that.

Already happening.

In the first two weeks of his campaign, the corporate media and even some progressive media outlets have already run multiple hit pieces against him. MSNBC launched a baseless, frontal attack with “Cornel West’s ‘leftist’ presidential bid has right-wing DNA".

 


The Clamp

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jan 11, 2016
26,182
West is BEST




knocky1

Well-known member
Jan 20, 2010
13,108
ProRepublica? And you think the NY Post is funny?
One is an independent, non-profit newsroom that produces investigative journalism in the public interest. Won the Pulitzer prize for journalism and has articles printed in the NY Times.

The other is a Murdoch owned, sensationalist, bullshit rag.
 




Hugo Rune

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Feb 23, 2012
23,660
Brighton
Looks like Trump might not be getting as much of the special treatment in Georgia that he's become accustomed to in his other court proceedings in New York, Washington and Florida

Brilliant news.

He can’t pardon himself if he is POTUS again.

Not the overnight stay I wanted for him but the mugshots images should bring it home to some Americans that they love and support a career criminal.
 




Greg Bobkin

Silver Seagull
May 22, 2012
16,026
Looks like Trump might not be getting as much of the special treatment in Georgia that he's become accustomed to in his other court proceedings in New York, Washington and Florida

Yeah, but [something derogatory about the Bidens, 'Crooked' Hillary Clinton or democrats in general].

#FreeTrumpo
 


US Seagull

Well-known member
Jul 17, 2003
4,637
Cleveland, OH
Not linking to his vanity social media platform "Truth" social, but he posted this ramble:

The failed District Attorney of Fulton County (Atlanta), Fani Willis, insisted on a $200,000 Bond from me. I assume, therefore, that she thought I was a "flight" risk—I'd fly far away, maybe to Russia, Russia, Russia, share a gold domed suite with Vladimir, never to be seen or heard from again. Would I be able to take my very "understated" airplane with the gold TRUMP affixed for all to see. Probably not, I'd be much better off flying commercial—I'm sure nobody would recognize me!
Floating the idea of doing a runner?
 


clapham_gull

Legacy Fan
Aug 20, 2003
25,876
Trump is not the problem - he is nothing more than a manifestation of the decrepit, decaying, cesspit that is capitalist society in America.
It's too simplistic (and lazy) to explain Trump in pure Marxist terms.

You also have to factor in the number of American tired of the political establishment and the prominence of certain families who wanted to stir things up.

I know loads of American who despise Trump, but they hate Biden too. But as I've said to them you've got an issue where millions love Trump, but no-one appears to love Biden.

Americans are the most deeply Capitalistic people on earth, it defines them. Far more than this country will still has its class imbalance and old school money.

They will never embrace anything that even resembles Socialism.
 




RexCathedra

Aurea Mediocritas
Jan 14, 2005
3,509
Vacationland
I know loads of American who despise Trump, but they hate Biden too.
Trump's appeal is simple: "He hates the same people I hate, hand me the ballot."

Despite theory to the contrary, most voters go into the voting booth not to choose magistrates, and representatives, nor to choose between competing policy agendas, or to decide between differing ideas of the role of government.

They're hunting up a stick to hit people with. In the case of Trump, you know you've chosen a stout stick, that it will get used, and on the right people.

Whom does Biden hate? Not whom does the torrent of internet media says he hates -- whom does he hate?

That's the problem. Voters might want to put the boot in, and in his case, they're not sure where it will go.
Crazies will tell you "Biden hates patriots! Real Americans! Hard-working people with jobs and families! Soldiers! Cops! White people! Christians! That's who he hates."

The ones who aren't recent head-trauma cases don't actually believe that. They produce it for two reasons -- it's the password that gets them in the club, that proves their bona fides.

The other reason, much less benign, is what claiming it then gives them and the people they vote for permission to do.
 


Eeyore

Colonel Hee-Haw of Queen's Park
NSC Patron
Apr 5, 2014
25,892
Did anybody in America actually inject themselves with disinfectant after the Covid press conference ?

Seriously, does America really want this bloke again ? It's really disturbing.
 


RexCathedra

Aurea Mediocritas
Jan 14, 2005
3,509
Vacationland
Did anybody in America actually inject themselves with disinfectant after the Covid press conference ?

Seriously, does America really want this bloke again ? It's really disturbing.
Enough do to pose a real problem. And they'll crawl over broken glass to vote for him again.

The people who don't want him, some of them feel the same way, but only some. They'll crawl over broken glass to vote against him. But they're not enough.

The election is in the hands of people who don't actually care much about politics, or who think Trump is low and dirty, but not dangerous.

Some are voters who vote out of duty, who can't not vote, but who are proud of how they've seen through the whole charade. thanks to superior wit and intellect. The people who want to drive the politicians out of politics. As a first step towards getting the politics out of politics. Because politics these days is just too political.

There's a bumper sticker here "Don't Vote -- It Just Encourages Them."
 






Randy McNob

> > > > > > Cardiff > > > > >
Jun 13, 2020
4,724
I find Trump completely boring now, no one believes there is a huge conspiracy against him except the braindead rednecks

There is no way America will vote him back in, his popularity is greatly exagerated, most moderate voters, find him highly toxic and would never win the election
 


Hugo Rune

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Feb 23, 2012
23,660
Brighton
I find Trump completely boring now, no one believes there is a huge conspiracy against him except the braindead rednecks

There is no way America will vote him back in, his popularity is greatly exaggerated, most moderate voters, find him highly toxic and would never win the election
I think this is correct.

His support is so incredibly obnoxious, vocal and loud (just like the **** himself) it get’s all the airtime.

But I’d guess there are many thousands, perhaps millions of republicans who won’t vote for him next time because of his behaviour when he was POTUS and since.
 


BBassic

I changed this.
Jul 28, 2011
13,043
Might need a 'Trump Mk.2' thread if Vivek Ramaswamy gets the nomination. Though one suspects he isn't the ideal candidate for some white Republican voters. For some reason.


After all eight candidates declined to raise their hands when asked if they believed human behavior was causing the climate crisis, Ramaswamy jumped in, stridently rapping out: “Unlock American energy, drill, frack, burn coal, embrace nuclear.”

In his closing statement, he rapped out hard-right talking points once again: “God is real. There are two genders. Fossil fuels are a requirement for human prosperity. Reverse racism is racism. An open border is not a border. Parents determine the education of their children. The nuclear family is the greatest form of governance known to man. Capitalism lifts us up from poverty.”
 




Greg Bobkin

Silver Seagull
May 22, 2012
16,026
Might need a 'Trump Mk.2' thread if Vivek Ramaswamy gets the nomination. Though one suspects he isn't the ideal candidate for some white Republican voters. For some reason.


After all eight candidates declined to raise their hands when asked if they believed human behavior was causing the climate crisis, Ramaswamy jumped in, stridently rapping out: “Unlock American energy, drill, frack, burn coal, embrace nuclear.”

In his closing statement, he rapped out hard-right talking points once again: “God is real. There are two genders. Fossil fuels are a requirement for human prosperity. Reverse racism is racism. An open border is not a border. Parents determine the education of their children. The nuclear family is the greatest form of governance known to man. Capitalism lifts us up from poverty.”
Didn't he also say/suggest the other day that he thought 9/11 was an inside job?
 




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