[Albion] That was a red wasn’t it?

[JBizzle]

The Doku challenge was ajudged to be " an unavoidable coming together" whatever that means.

Surely there's a point in any tackle when it becomes "an unavoidable coming together"? Seems like another line that's drawn subjectively based on whomever is refereeing on that day.

 

[Uh_huh_him]

Surely there's a point in any tackle when it becomes "an unavoidable coming together"? Seems like another line that's drawn subjectively based on whomever is refereeing on that day.

Precisely.

It was a classic case of a poor ref/VAR bottling a big decision.

 

[Bodian]

I wonder whether he was saved by Gibbs-White trip on him just before. The ref should have blown for that then the Moder challenge doesn't happen.

May have done in the ref's mind. But it shouldn't do - because the punishment (card) wouldn't be for the tackle so much as the recklessly endangering an opponent - which took place regardless of whether it was a foul just before or not.

 

[nicko31]

Absolutely ridiculous that Moder went for it in the first place. Stupid. Deserved to go but we got away with it.

Serves Forest right for employing Clattenberg.

Ridiculous to create such a role

Nuno claims "someone wants to put us down" as Forest trio blast Brighton referee

Nottingham Forest felt Jakub Moder should have been sent off in their 1-0 defeat to Brighton, with Nuno Espirito Santo, Morgan Gibbs-White and Chris Wood all hitting out at the decision

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[Hotchilidog]

Having seen the replay again the morning, I'd have to agree that Moder was fortunate to stay on. I think the mitigating factors would have been the trip and maybe a perceived levelling up for the failure to dismiss 32 for two yellows.

Still I'll not be wringing my hands about it after the terrible luck we've had at the hands of refs in the past and this ref in particular. We got the break this time and about time too.

 

[Milano]

We've had this ref before and he's been awful before. We happened to benefit yesterday, which makes a change, but this ref isn't good enough for the EPL. I'd have been fuming if that had been the other way around.
How is it that since refs went full time and since more tech has come in to 'help' them they seem to be getting stedily worse?

 

[Uh_huh_him]

Ridiculous to create such a role

Nuno claims "someone wants to put us down" as Forest trio blast Brighton referee

Nottingham Forest felt Jakub Moder should have been sent off in their 1-0 defeat to Brighton, with Nuno Espirito Santo, Morgan Gibbs-White and Chris Wood all hitting out at the decision

www.mirror.co.uk

Nuno's gone full Wilder there.

There are far easier ways of putting them down, than not dishing out red cards for opponents that are outclassing you.
Like, maybe sending off the Forest player making a rash challenge whilst already on a yellow?

 

[dazzer6666]

Another prime example of VAR and it's random incompetence, staying with the refs on field decision to give Moder the yellow is just laughable, it's not a case of was it a red by the letter of the law it's basically pot luck who's on VAR, honestly if that tackle was on one of our players I'd be off my bonce,Moder got lucky, red card on field,VAR,and throughout the known footballing universe.

Ref-buddies not over-ruling their mates unless they absolutely have to.……..in examples like Moder yesterday the onfield ref should simply (and quickly) be told to go and have another look without being ‘told’ by VAR that ‘it’s a red’.

 

[PILTDOWN MAN]

Another prime example of VAR and it's random incompetence, staying with the refs on field decision to give Moder the yellow is just laughable, it's not a case of was it a red by the letter of the law it's basically pot luck who's on VAR, honestly if that tackle was on one of our players I'd be off my bonce,Moder got lucky, red card on field,VAR,and throughout the known footballing universe.

It would have been easier if the ref had blown for the deliberate swing of the leg on Moder by Hudson Odoi, whilst laying on the floor after he won the first tackle.

 

[METALMICKY]

It would have been easier if the ref had blown for the deliberate swing of the leg on Moder by Hudson Odoi, whilst laying on the floor after he won the first tackle.

Bizarrely the ref may have missed a trick there. Did he see that cynical swing? If he did, his ' get out ' on having to make the big decision was to wind it back and say that's a foul by Odoi. Instead aided and abetted by incompetent VAR he misses one of the most obvious reds you will ever see.

 

[bazbha]

Against one of the big teams this is a red. Against Forest it isn't. (Obviously Forest are a big team. I'm referring to the "big 6".)

 

[Uh_huh_him]

The Clattenburg appointment isn't paying off as yet, is it.....

 

[drew]

We've had this ref before and he's been awful before. We happened to benefit yesterday, which makes a change, but this ref isn't good enough for the EPL. I'd have been fuming if that had been the other way around.
How is it that since refs went full time and since more tech has come in to 'help' them they seem to be getting stedily worse?

He was the VAR official when we had all those decisions at Spurs go against us.

 

[shingle]

Saw the tackle close up on motd last night. First 2 angles a yellow. But when showed from behind moder as he went in … a stonewall red.

 

[peterward]

It was absolutely nailed on red. Worse than the Gilmour tackle.

I agree. I said on here as it went to VAR "he's off"..... until he wasn't.

We definitely got away with one, but rather than cheer our good fortune on this occasion, consistency is still better and theres painfully little if any.

Does anybody truly believe if Moder did exactly that challenge to De Bruyne at the Etihad, Fernandez at OT or Salah at Anfield it would have remained yellow?

 

[dazzer6666]

The Clattenburg appointment isn't paying off as yet, is it.....

Genuinely wondering what he does for them -

'Mark, can you review that Moder tackle'
'Should have been a red'
'Okay thanks'

 

[Bodian]

I agree. I said on here as it went to VAR "he's off"..... until he wasn't.

We definitely got away one, but rather than cheer our good fortune on this occasion, consistency is still better and theres painfully little if any.

Does anybody truly believe if Moder did exactly that challenge to De Bruyne at the Etihad, Fernandez at OT or Salah at Anfield it would have remained yellow?

If it were done by one of those teams on our player - wouldn't have even been a yellow....

 

[Originunknown]

I thought it was a yellow personally.

I also thought their guy should’ve been sent off for a second yellow.

These were my thoughts watching the extended highlights, clear second yellow two awful tackles.
VAR will have known their full back should have gone and perhaps exercised some leniency with Kuba

 

[A1X]

Nuno's gone full Wilder there.

There are far easier ways of putting them down, than not dishing out red cards for opponents that are outclassing you.
Like, maybe sending off the Forest player making a rash challenge whilst already on a yellow?

Or the Palace player who punched the ball away from an Albion player on the edge of their own penalty area

 

[peterward]

Genuinely wondering what he does for them -

'Mark, can you review that Moder tackle'
'Should have been a red'
'Okay thanks'

NES "But it's not fair, why is it always us"

(After employing much maligned and despised vocal critic of referees and PGMOL)

"Weirdos, squares, snakes" - Mark Clattenburg tears into Premier League referees

Mark Clattenburg came to blows with bitter rival Martin Atkinson during a game of five-a-side and also butted heads with former Premier League colleagues Howard Webb and Mike Riley

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